twigg Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Finally got a real forging session in today. The fixes I did to the new forge's burner collar yesterday seems to have paid off. I also swapped from a 3/4" burner to a 1/2" burner. And last but not least I turned the forge on its side so now the burner is horizontal and the height is the short dimension. Rayleigh number something or other mumble mumble . Some combination of these fixes did the trick. Got the forge just hot enough to see some scale blister off the steel. Maybe after Christmas gifts are done I'll do an emissive coating. Mostly I just practiced getting my hammer control back today by banging some 1/2" rebar into 3/8" square stock. But I did finish forging an A2 center punch for a gift. A2 with barely yellow heat is not fun. I think I just have bad luck with the element chromium in general. I did manage to forge this punch nearly to shape though. Had some wobbles that had to be taken out on the angle grinder. I ran out of gas before the heat treat. Need to do some homework on A2 heat treating too. Air quenching might be complicated by elevation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 On 12/15/2020 at 10:49 PM, Chimaera said: n a different note, I finally got tong blanks from Ken's Custom Iron I ordered a bundle of the heavier ones. Quick or rapid I don't remember which they call them. I ordered the ones made from heavier stock. I need to get off my bee hind and put them together. Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Those would be the quicks. I decided that I probably won't be dealing with any round or square bigger than 1/2", so I went with the rapids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 "...I probably won't be dealing with any round or square bigger than 1/2"...." YET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 True, JHCC, true. However, my hope is that by the time I am, I can make my own tongs from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I worry about people making things from scratch. If we use up our limited supply of scratch, there won't be any left for future generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Scratch is a renewable resource; just plant some poison ivy around your house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegers Forge and Foundry Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I started with about 6 layers but ended up with 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 layers or coins? In theory isn't each coin two layers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandr Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I promised the customer to finish the work before the new year. I had to give up all other projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Sorry to hear that. It does look excellent, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul TIKI Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Beautiful as always, Alexandr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
671jungle Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Made first scaled handle knife the other day. have’nt been on in awhile, I hope everyone is fairing alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegers Forge and Foundry Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Chimaera said: 6 layers or coins? In theory isn't each coin two layers? Didn’t think of it like that in that case the 4 quarters is 8 layers today I made a 8 quarter or 16 layers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBones Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 I like the diamond plate. Alexandr, if that were me it would be New Year 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBones Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Made e a set of goose neck v-bit tongs. Stick welded the reigns on then smoothed the out. Have not tried the yet so they still need the tweeking done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Quote On 12/17/2020 at 2:55 PM, Chimaera said: 6 layers or coins? In theory isn't each coin two layers? Didn’t think of it like that in that case the 4 quarters is 8 layers today I made a 8 quarter or 16 layers Well, each coin is three layers: cupronickel obverse, copper core, and cupronickel reverse. That would give a four-quarter stack the following composition: CuNi / Cu / CuNi / CuNi / Cu / CuNi / CuNi / Cu / CuNi / CuNi / Cu / CuNi which is technically twelve layers. However, the CuNi layers (other than the two on the outside) will fuse into double-thick layers, which makes: CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi which is nine layers. Similarly, eight quarters will make: CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi-CuNi / Cu / CuNi which is seventeen layers. Which, frankly, doesn't make much difference, since (A) the outside layers go bye-bye during finishing anyway, and (B) the copper cores are so much thicker than the cupronickel faces that the double thickness of the cupronickel layers isn't much different from the single thickness of the pure copper layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegers Forge and Foundry Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Good to know Yesterday I finished a pendant for my grandma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedefiddle Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Good Morning, Deburr the edges of the hole with a Deburring Tool or a touch with a Counter Sink. This will stop cutting the cord/chain that you use. Merry Almost, Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 10:55 AM, Chimaera said: 6 layers or coins? In theory isn't each coin two layers? No, they have three: one nickel copper sandwiched by two copper nickel outers. Every fold multiplies by the power of 3. On 12/17/2020 at 1:21 PM, Jaegers Forge and Foundry said: Didn’t think of it like that in that case the 4 quarters is 8 layers today I made a 8 quarter or 16 layers Nope, 12 layers and 24 IF you didn't fold them. Looks nice, well done. Remember the nickel doesn't work well too cool. You probably hit it too cold and caused the delamination. Happens, just remember to stop after it drops below dim light red heat. A shadow box you can check in helps but isn't necessary annealing too often isn't harmful to nickel alloys. Spectacular as always Alexandr. You've run me completely out of ways to say how much I like your work. Were I younger I'd happily sweep your floors just to watch from out of your way. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatLiner Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 I tried my hand at making a fire poker today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Nice poker, I like how the twist changes pitch along the length, a little refinement and straightening and it'd be darned marketable, especially in sets. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaegers Forge and Foundry Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Thanks frosty I’ll remember not to work it cold FlatLiner, nice fire poker looks beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 I worked on designing the guard for a rapier; I have a nineteen eighteen issue of the 1913 Patton model cavalry "sabre" with a damaged hilt that I have long wanted to rehilt as a rapier. Finally got started, (give you a hint my Daughter Doctor Powers was a toddler when I sourced the blade...). I figure I will have to do several of the guards till I get what I want . The first will be forge welded from a number of bars. I'm going to try to leave the tang hole open in the welding to make it easier to file to fit. The goal is to do the final version from some nice highly refined wrought iron I happen to have on hand---unfortunately in 1.25" round stock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BsnNFrnt Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 First letter opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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