MotoMike Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 she looks nice. are you going to smooth the jaws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caotropheus Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The counterweight of a tractor in upside down position. It was offered to me by the guys in one of the orchards where I work. The frame is 250 mm wide and built from 10 mm thick steel plate. The frame is salvageable to make the base for a bench grinder or a vice or something like that. The two counterweights are made of 50 mm thick plate dimensions 315 mm X 280 mm at the widest and 250 mm at the shortest. Interesting those counterweights look more and more like a swage block... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfeile Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Got a sledge head today. May make a treadle hammer out of it if I can find some room. Also got these babies to follow me home. They are going to make some things a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Good score! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfeile Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Price was good too. All I had to do was load them up. I think I need to fill the bottles though. Last time they were used was when I cut some pieces out for my forge. Wasn't much left in them then. I don't think dad used them twice in the last four years, so I told him they needed a new home haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Lol. But ouch, it hurts a little just to fill them. I swear mine leak even tho I sure can't find one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Did you get the papers on them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfeile Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Not sure I need them where I would get them filled. They are bought tanks, not leased, and there are only 2 places around that fill them. They were bought from the one I will be going to. I'll have to double check if I'll need them there or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Get and file the paperwork with both locations near you that fill the tanks. Keep a copy on file at your house. Easy to make a copy and put it in a zip lock baggy and secure it to the tanks. Clear tape works and it saves a whole lot of looking if they are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Do you get an exchange tank when you buy a refill or do you get your own refilled? I go to the local hardware and jus swap the tanks for a full one. What's the paperwork for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Bunnings, Marc?? I just swap mine too. No paperwork. (And no bottle rental - I like that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Yes. Easiest to deal with because there are so many outlets. My Argon tank needs to go to one welding supply only, but it's much larger (E size) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I bought my tanks back in 1972 from Gold Coast Welding in Ft. Lauderdale FL. Finding the paper work would be impossible, however they stamped SOLD into each tank. Never had a problem getting them refilled, which is what I do because they are very large tanks and full one's usually last me about ten years. I'm thinking about swapping them out for smaller tanks because it's hard to lift them into my new truck and you can't by law transport them in an enclosed vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerMonkey Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Bought tanks for me too (in Washington State). They are always exchanged for full tanks. No rental charges, no HST date issues, no maintenance/wear/damage issues, and no paperwork ever needed. Easy peasy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Some places are fussy about the tank paperwork due to the many stolen tanks out there. If your area is not, then lucky you and I hope you don't move to an area where they are fussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Richter Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Dear gents, -about the paperwork on gas cylinders, they are pressure vessels and ‘little bomb’s’. Actually they have to be checked periodically on leakage, corrosion and integrity. Normally they (filling station, Notified body) do this by visual inspection, pressure tests and wall thickness measurement, then you get your ‘paperwork’ by certificate or approval. The expiring date of the approval mostly is mentioned on the cylinder by stamp or sticker. Regarding the hoses, they worn out after a while by temperature, age and UV-radiation. Even they have to be checked periodically by pressure test and dumpling under water. Last but not least the possible flash back to your acetylene cylinder possible at any time you turn of the wrong valve (oxygen) first after use. You can avoid that by special valves behind the pressure reducer. On another treat I already mentioned the upright use and transportation of the acetylene cylinders because of the liquid acetone contain. Maybe for some of you nothing new, but for others maybe a reminder to treat this kind of stuff serious. Have a nice day, and forge, burn, cut nice things. Hans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacksmith-450 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 The deal was too good... J Brooks 2CWT !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Hans Richter, Thank you for your notes on gas pressure vessels (tanks). Though known to many old timers. It bears repeating, in order to "teach" or remind many others. As you have already mentioned alluded, acetylene tanks are a potential bomb. They are complicated, & not just cylinders & they have acetone, in them, to dissolve the gas. (e.g. they used to be filled with porous cement in the old days. (They use something else these days for that purpose). Help me out with that detail please. Thanks. Never store/transport the cylinders in a horizontal position. & they should be refilled long before they run out. The lower pressure reading, for refill, is disclosed elsewhere. And I don't remember it right now. Jock's site has an expansive treatment on bottled gases. especially acetylene. It pays to read a little on the subject. It will repay the reader much for just a little effort. SLAG. I just checked out what they now use in the gas cylinders that helps stabilizes acetylene gas. Two of them are diatomaceous earth and also kapok fiber. There are others. They are used in conjunction with acetone fluid. I first tried Google for the search. It delivered many pages of ads for sale, & no answer to my querry. Are they going to seed, as a search engine, because of money making greed? Say it ain't so Google?! Maybe I need some special search tips to navigate your site? SLAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou L Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 4 hours ago, blacksmith-450 said: The deal was too good... J Brooks 2CWT !!! Beautiful anvil. If the deal was too good please don’t tell me...otherwise I’m curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I go for ... mm ... $226.50 10 hours ago, ThomasPowers said: Some places are fussy about the tank paperwork due to the many stolen tanks out there. If your area is not, then lucky you and I hope you don't move to an area where they are fussy. So the paperwork is to prove ownership ... I see. In Australia we used to have a monopoly on welding gases by just one company. High rental and low price for gas. Convenient for the workshop that uses many tanks per year, no good for the small workshop. Eventually and only a few years ago, some companies started to trade by selling the cylinders rather than renting them yet their gas prices is higher. To prove ownership is not necessary since all cylinders are marked with the company name and each company fills their own. If someone steals the cylinder he can still go and get it refilled. The cylinders that are rented require an account with the refilling company and you can buy a stolen cylinder on Gumtree, but no one will refill it. As for my original question if you get your cylinders refilled or if you swap them for a full one, I read that IF&C bought his cylinders in 1972 ... but i surely hope they are not the same in use today ... yeeeks! I get a different cylinder every time. They "belong" to me legally but the process of refilling by swapping puts the need for periodical checks back on the gas company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I have seen cylinders dated back to 1922 that were still in use in the 90's. The oldest I have seen recently was a US NAVY marked cylinder from 1943, and yes they get hydro tested every 5 or 12 years I believe - I know propane tanks are 12. I bought my cylinders when I had my shop. They took my empties and swapped it out with a full one. They handled the hydro's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Mine are still in use. They were tested the last time I had them filled. I have no qualms about using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 In the “One That Got Away” Department, the local industrial surplus place listed a box of 24” x 48” sheets of Duraboard (I think two sheets of 2” thick, but not sure) for twenty bucks. It was sold before I could get a hold on it. Grrrrr.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 This little lot turned up today. Guy was cleaning out his father's shed and wanted a new home for these old tools. His Dad was a carpenter so most of this stuff is woodworking gear, but I did select out a few pieces that might find a use in the forge (pic2). Punches, chisels, pliers and wrenches and especially boxes of copper rivets are all welcome. I'm wondering what those serrated tongs in the middle are for. Maybe for holding crucibles or something. There was a small anvil in there too (pic 3). Don't know whether it's home made or not. If it is, it's well done. The man even gave me an old steel-wheel trolley to move the stuff into the shed and the large chest which was used to store it all in nicely fitted compartments. The tools were in use back in the thirties. Nice when people show up with things like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Cool stuff Aus. That anvil is a home made RR track anvil. Not sure on the tongs but the look like they are for opening a really stubborn jar lid lol. Those are some nice big clamps as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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