Glenn

Please do not think we are bashing the creator of the video. He can do what ever he wishes, as it is his shop, and his life that may get shortened or ended due to his actions. We are trying to warn others that there are very clear risks and dangers being shown in the video, and those risks are being downplayed or dismissed. It is one thing to put himself at risk but it is NOT ok to put others at risk, or suggest that others do not have to take precautions when doing dangerous things. That IS being irresponsible. Videos on youtube and other video hosts can be very helpful and informative. They can also be very dangerous. When bad information is presented, or when safety is dismissed, it can get others hurt, injured, or killed. The noise videos he presented have several flaws, including how to properly use the meter. Improper use of the meter gives incorrect measurements which have little or no value. Properly used the sound meter is a very useful tool. It can provide you with good diagnostic information. You can then take measures to reduce the sound or noise levels or take other actions to remove your self from harm. The IForgeIron membership is encouraged to step up and post any time they see a safety problem or hazardous situation. It keeps us alive and able to enjoy life.

Take two readings, one at body location, and one from in the room. Please post your results (grin).

There are several sound dB apps available. The sound apps are not all calibrated the same. Two different apps running at the same time, same location, can sometimes have a 20 dB difference in the readings. Try Sound Meter by Smart tools, and Sound Meter by Abc Apps. The time graph of the sound levels lets you can see the numbers displayed in a graph of time vs sound levels. While your at it, look up a flashlight app that turns on the flash of your camera on so you can use it as a flashlight.

IForgeIron pushes safety. Always has. Many times it is the not knowing that is the most dangerous. Hopefully we will remember the warnings when the elements do come together.

It is time to review the sound warnings again. In a large multiple bay auto repair garage, the air gun for removing lug nuts from tires, and the air driven ratchet wrenches were giving me discomfort. A quick measurement by the dB meter on the cell phone said they both were way too loud, and could cause hearing damage. Even in the office the sound levels were high. The one thing the audiologist recommended was if you drive with the window down, use a single ear plug to stop the repeated popping of the wind against your ear. Sound levels are interesting to measure. They are all over the scale, and oftem times louder than you ever imagined. Prolonged exposure is a real concern even to the lower sound levels. If you really want to KNOW how much sound your being exposed to, put a set of foam or other ear plugs in, and then ADD a set of ear muffs over the ears. Yes TWO layers. Now set down with a cold drink, relax and enjoy life for 30 minutes or so.Listen to the sounds your body makes, your heart beating, air going into and out of your lungs, etc. Be careful with standing up and walking around as you may experience vertigo. Speak or say something in a low volume, than again at normal levels and listen to the body vibrate. Stand up and walk a short distance and listen to the impact of just walking on your body, the joints being hammered with each step, the joints creaking and grinding, and a world of new noises. When you finish the 30 minutes or more test, remove just the muffs and listen again with the ear plugs still inserted and providing a 30 or so dB noise reduction. Finally slowly remove the ear plugs and let the sound of the world back into your hearing and life. Try to identify what is making all the racket and the intensity of the sound. Sound damage to the hearing is accumulative. Protect what you have as once it is damaged, it is not coming back.

https://www.cdc.gov/NIOSH/ershdb/EmergencyResponseCard_29750035.html INDIVIDUAL DECONTAMINATION: The following methods can be used to decontaminate an individual: Decontamination of First Responder: Begin washing PPE of the first responder using soap and water solution and a soft brush. Always move in a downward motion (from head to toe). Make sure to get into all areas, especially folds in the clothing. Wash and rinse (using cold or warm water) until the contaminant is thoroughly removed. Remove PPE by rolling downward (from head to toe) and avoid pulling PPE off over the head. Remove the SCBA after other PPE has been removed. Place all PPE in labeled durable 6-mil polyethylene bags. Decontamination of Patient/Victim: Remove the patient/victim from the contaminated area and into the decontamination corridor. Remove all clothing (at least down to their undergarments) and place the clothing in a labeled durable 6-mil polyethylene bag. Thoroughly wash and rinse (using cold or warm water) the contaminated skin of the patient/victim using a soap and water solution. Be careful not to break the patient/victim’s skin during the decontamination process, and cover all open wounds. Cover the patient/victim to prevent shock and loss of body heat. Move the patient/victim to an area where emergency medical treatment can be provided.

Informtion about phosgene. Phosgene is ranked a 5 out of 7 in toxicity by the #Scorecard making it in the top ten percent of toxic substances. No antidote exists for phosgene. According to the National Institute for Occupations Safety and Health (NIOSH), a toxic level that can place a person’s life and well-being in jeopardy can be as low as 2 parts per million (ppm). Phosgene gas is a byproduct of some refrigerants when they are exposed to an open flame, or extreme heat. Being extremely toxic in small amounts, phosgene formation was a real concern when traditional refrigerants (R11, R- 12, R- 113, R- 114 and others) decomposed. The chemical in the brake cleaner is Tetrachloroethylene. When this chemical is exposed with excessive heat and argon (used in MIG and TIG welding) it also produces phosgene. _________________________ Phosgene is also known as carbonyl chloride (COCL2). It is formed when chlorinated hydrocarbon compounds are exposed to high temperatures. Its boiling point is 8.2°C, making it an extremely volatile and non-persistent agent. in case of phosgene exposure, one should leave the area of the phosgene release as quickly as possible. Remove clothing and wash entire body with soap or water and get to a medical care facility as quickly as possible. Exposed clothing should be removed keeping it away from the head (cut off shirts if necessary rather than pull them off over the head) and should be sealed in a double plastic bag if possible. If one has ingested phosgene, do not induce vomiting or drink any fluids. Treatment for phosgene centers around removing the phosgene from the body as quickly as possible because no antidote exists for phosgene. ________________________ How people can protect themselves and what they should do if they are exposed to phosgene Leave the area where the phosgene was released and get to fresh air. Quickly moving to an area where fresh air is available is highly effective in reducing the possibility of death from exposure to phosgene. If the phosgene release was outdoors, move away from the area where the phosgene was released. Go to the highest ground possible, because phosgene is heavier than air and will sink to low-lying areas. If the phosgene release was indoors, get out of the building. If you think you may have been exposed, remove your clothing, rapidly wash your entire body with soap and water, and get medical care as quickly as possible. Removing and disposing of clothing: Quickly take off clothing that has liquid phosgene on it. Any clothing that has to be pulled over the head should be cut off the body instead of pulled over the head. If possible, seal the clothing in a plastic bag. Then seal the first plastic bag in a second plastic bag. Removing and sealing the clothing in this way will help protect you and other people from any chemicals that might be on your clothes. If you placed your clothes in plastic bags, inform either the local or state health department or emergency personnel upon their arrival. Do not handle the plastic bags. If you are helping other people remove their clothing, try to avoid touching any contaminated areas, and remove the clothing as quickly as possible. Washing the body: As quickly as possible, wash your entire body with large amounts of soap and water. Washing with soap and water will help protect people from any chemicals on their bodies. If your eyes are burning or your vision is blurred, rinse your eyes with plain water for 10 to 15 minutes. If you wear contacts, remove them and place them in the bags with the contaminated clothing. Do not put the contacts back in your eyes. If you wear eyeglasses, wash them with soap and water. You can put the eyeglasses back on after you wash them. If you have ingested (swallowed) phosgene, do not induce vomiting or drink fluids. Seek medical attention right away. Dial 911 and explain what has happened. How phosgene exposure is treated Treatment for phosgene exposure consists of removing phosgene from the body as soon as possible and providing supportive medical care in a hospital setting. No antidote exists for phosgene. Exposed people should be observed for up to 48 hours, because it may take that long for symptoms to develop or reoccur. _____________

Copied from another thread Informtion about phosgene. Phosgene is ranked a 5 out of 7 in toxicity by the #Scorecard making it in the top ten percent of toxic substances. No antidote exists for phosgene. According to the National Institute for Occupations Safety and Health (NIOSH), a toxic level that can place a person’s life and well-being in jeopardy can be as low as 2 parts per million (ppm). Phosgene gas is a byproduct of some refrigerants when they are exposed to an open flame, or extreme heat. Being extremely toxic in small amounts, phosgene formation was a real concern when traditional refrigerants (R11, R- 12, R- 113, R- 114 and others) decomposed. The chemical in the brake cleaner is Tetrachloroethylene. When this chemical is exposed with excessive heat and argon (used in MIG and TIG welding) it also produces phosgene. _________________________ Phosgene is also known as carbonyl chloride (COCL2). It is formed when chlorinated hydrocarbon compounds are exposed to high temperatures. Its boiling point is 8.2°C, making it an extremely volatile and non-persistent agent. in case of phosgene exposure, one should leave the area of the phosgene release as quickly as possible. Remove clothing and wash entire body with soap or water and get to a medical care facility as quickly as possible. Exposed clothing should be removed keeping it away from the head (cut off shirts if necessary rather than pull them off over the head) and should be sealed in a double plastic bag if possible. If one has ingested phosgene, do not induce vomiting or drink any fluids. Treatment for phosgene centers around removing the phosgene from the body as quickly as possible because no antidote exists for phosgene. ________________________ How people can protect themselves and what they should do if they are exposed to phosgene Leave the area where the phosgene was released and get to fresh air. Quickly moving to an area where fresh air is available is highly effective in reducing the possibility of death from exposure to phosgene. If the phosgene release was outdoors, move away from the area where the phosgene was released. Go to the highest ground possible, because phosgene is heavier than air and will sink to low-lying areas. If the phosgene release was indoors, get out of the building. If you think you may have been exposed, remove your clothing, rapidly wash your entire body with soap and water, and get medical care as quickly as possible. Removing and disposing of clothing: Quickly take off clothing that has liquid phosgene on it. Any clothing that has to be pulled over the head should be cut off the body instead of pulled over the head. If possible, seal the clothing in a plastic bag. Then seal the first plastic bag in a second plastic bag. Removing and sealing the clothing in this way will help protect you and other people from any chemicals that might be on your clothes. If you placed your clothes in plastic bags, inform either the local or state health department or emergency personnel upon their arrival. Do not handle the plastic bags. If you are helping other people remove their clothing, try to avoid touching any contaminated areas, and remove the clothing as quickly as possible. Washing the body: As quickly as possible, wash your entire body with large amounts of soap and water. Washing with soap and water will help protect people from any chemicals on their bodies. If your eyes are burning or your vision is blurred, rinse your eyes with plain water for 10 to 15 minutes. If you wear contacts, remove them and place them in the bags with the contaminated clothing. Do not put the contacts back in your eyes. If you wear eyeglasses, wash them with soap and water. You can put the eyeglasses back on after you wash them. If you have ingested (swallowed) phosgene, do not induce vomiting or drink fluids. Seek medical attention right away. Dial 911 and explain what has happened. How phosgene exposure is treated Treatment for phosgene exposure consists of removing phosgene from the body as soon as possible and providing supportive medical care in a hospital setting. No antidote exists for phosgene. Exposed people should be observed for up to 48 hours, because it may take that long for symptoms to develop or reoccur.

Informtion about phosgene. Phosgene is ranked a 5 out of 7 in toxicity by the #Scorecard making it in the top ten percent of toxic substances. No antidote exists for phosgene. According to the National Institute for Occupations Safety and Health (NIOSH), a toxic level that can place a person’s life and well-being in jeopardy can be as low as 2 parts per million (ppm). Phosgene gas is a byproduct of some refrigerants when they are exposed to an open flame, or extreme heat. Being extremely toxic in small amounts, phosgene formation was a real concern when traditional refrigerants (R11, R- 12, R- 113, R- 114 and others) decomposed. The chemical in the brake cleaner is Tetrachloroethylene. When this chemical is exposed with excessive heat and argon (used in MIG and TIG welding) it also produces phosgene. _________________________ Phosgene is also known as carbonyl chloride (COCL2). It is formed when chlorinated hydrocarbon compounds are exposed to high temperatures. Its boiling point is 8.2°C, making it an extremely volatile and non-persistent agent. in case of phosgene exposure, one should leave the area of the phosgene release as quickly as possible. Remove clothing and wash entire body with soap or water and get to a medical care facility as quickly as possible. Exposed clothing should be removed keeping it away from the head (cut off shirts if necessary rather than pull them off over the head) and should be sealed in a double plastic bag if possible. If one has ingested phosgene, do not induce vomiting or drink any fluids. Treatment for phosgene centers around removing the phosgene from the body as quickly as possible because no antidote exists for phosgene. ________________________ How people can protect themselves and what they should do if they are exposed to phosgene Leave the area where the phosgene was released and get to fresh air. Quickly moving to an area where fresh air is available is highly effective in reducing the possibility of death from exposure to phosgene. If the phosgene release was outdoors, move away from the area where the phosgene was released. Go to the highest ground possible, because phosgene is heavier than air and will sink to low-lying areas. If the phosgene release was indoors, get out of the building. If you think you may have been exposed, remove your clothing, rapidly wash your entire body with soap and water, and get medical care as quickly as possible. Removing and disposing of clothing: Quickly take off clothing that has liquid phosgene on it. Any clothing that has to be pulled over the head should be cut off the body instead of pulled over the head. If possible, seal the clothing in a plastic bag. Then seal the first plastic bag in a second plastic bag. Removing and sealing the clothing in this way will help protect you and other people from any chemicals that might be on your clothes. If you placed your clothes in plastic bags, inform either the local or state health department or emergency personnel upon their arrival. Do not handle the plastic bags. If you are helping other people remove their clothing, try to avoid touching any contaminated areas, and remove the clothing as quickly as possible. Washing the body: As quickly as possible, wash your entire body with large amounts of soap and water. Washing with soap and water will help protect people from any chemicals on their bodies. If your eyes are burning or your vision is blurred, rinse your eyes with plain water for 10 to 15 minutes. If you wear contacts, remove them and place them in the bags with the contaminated clothing. Do not put the contacts back in your eyes. If you wear eyeglasses, wash them with soap and water. You can put the eyeglasses back on after you wash them. If you have ingested (swallowed) phosgene, do not induce vomiting or drink fluids. Seek medical attention right away. Dial 911 and explain what has happened. How phosgene exposure is treated Treatment for phosgene exposure consists of removing phosgene from the body as soon as possible and providing supportive medical care in a hospital setting. No antidote exists for phosgene. Exposed people should be observed for up to 48 hours, because it may take that long for symptoms to develop or reoccur. _____________ This information has also been posted in the safety section so it is easy to find.

Jim Wilson had a building that would cover two 18 wheel tractor trucks AND trailers. One end of the building was totally open, the other end was one half covered. He was burning the galvanized coating off some pipe in his gas forge, located in the middle of the building. See the stack above the roof. This was the total amount of pipe that was put into the gas forge, only a dozen or so pieces. He had COPD and other issues and the fumes sent him to the hospital. Total time from fume exposure to death was only a few weeks. We push safety on IForgeIron for a reason. Burning plastic, Styrofoam, and other things that produce smoke in the video is a BAD idea. Indoors it is a VERY BAD idea.

Melting aluminum inside leads to another safety concern about the smoke and fire hazards. The smoke coming off the process is a real concern. Setting the plastic cutting material on fire and then letting the fire just burn frightens me. Again the smoke of the burning plastic is a real concern.

If a fellow in Australia can find anvils in South Africa, then surely you can find something.

Prices range from ZERO dollars to as deep as your pocketbook allows. Zero dollars include but are not limited to a large rock can be used as an anvil, a smaller rock as a hammer, a hole in the ground for a forge, and leave the stock long and you do not need tongs. Shipping to Alaska can cost more than the item you purchased. We need more details as to quality, size etc. for the items mentioned. Please read the anvil section, the hammer section, the forge section, and the tool section to get a better idea of WHAT you need and the details of the options. Join the local blacksmithing group or organization as they know where the stuff is located and a representative price in your area. Attend the meetings and you can learn more in a few hours than you can ever imagine. And there is a section of IFI dedicated to those in Alaska.

You looking for a farriers anvil or saw makers anvil?

You and your family are on the list.