TWISTEDWILLOW Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 John’s correct, Same thing on my ship, all welding stations had exhaust hoods that sucked everything outta the shops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, M.J.Lampert said: at that time it would have been oxy-acetylene welding correct? Could have been either. Alabama was laid down in 1940 and decommissioned in 1947. Electric arc welding was invented at the end of the 19th century; oxyacetylene, around the turn of the century. I don't know if any photos exist of the shop in either Alabama or any other contemporary USN warships, but if there are such and they show welding cylinders, that could indicate what process was used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J.Lampert Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 ok electric arc would almost make the most sense as oxygen and acetylene would take over precious space on cargo ships and the USS Arkansas had 8 steam boilers for power and propulsion already so only rod would need to be brought over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 The cylinders would also use up steel that might be more effectively used elsewhere in war production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J.Lampert Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 yes that would also have been a factor as tanks must be thick to withstand high pressures i have recently taken interest in the pacific theater after studying the European theater for a few years. multiple Japanese commanders said beforehand that japan could expect 6 months of victories against the US and Britain before they would see major interference and if the war lasted more than three years japan was sure to loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I remember The HTs used to use their welding vents to get away with having a cigarette when the ships smoking lamp was out lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Is that a big old sliproll in the far right in that picture? Smoking lamp, lol. I remember that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 There’s an old advertisement for fisher anvils on pg 187 of AinA advertising fisher anvils on land an sea, with a picture of the Moreno, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 MJ, I don't think that electric arc welding was as sophisticated and reliable in the WW2 era as it is today. I recall reading an account of the Siege of Corrigedor in 1942 where the statement was made was that toward the end of the siege they were running out of welding gases to repair the guns from bomb and artillery damage and had to rely only on electric welding with the implication that arc welding was inferior to gas welding. GNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering_R0gue Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 First project in New forge, and first in about 15 years or so. Don't feel like it went too bad considering.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Bullet Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 14 hours ago, George N. M. said: that arc welding was inferior to gas welding. I seem to recall my dad telling me that arc welding was done without flux back in the day. As for getting things done, not much. Spent the day yesterday learning to tram my mill. After a several hours I finally got it back to within a few thou of where it was when I started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwj Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 16 hours ago, George N. M. said: MJ, I don't think that electric arc welding was as sophisticated and reliable in the WW2 era as it is today. I recall reading an account of the Siege of Corrigedor in 1942 where the statement was made was that toward the end of the siege they were running out of welding gases to repair the guns from bomb and artillery damage and had to rely only on electric welding with the implication that arc welding was inferior to gas welding. GNM Google "History of welding" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenW Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I couldn't make the anvil type out from the vantage point that the tour gave us. I spent waaay longer than anyone else in my group cared too looking at this room. Also, you are correct George, that is the forge in the far corner. They had hammer clinking sounds playing over a speaker to imitate work going on. There were a few sets of tongs hanging on the wall behind the anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J.Lampert Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 hours ago, jwj said: Google "History of welding" The History of Welding | MillerWelds here is a very good study going back to the blacksmithing roots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J.Lampert Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 got some shelving up and filled immediately got that filled so now the plan is to make some hooks and brackets to fit in the rivet holes of the angle iron nothing fancy but enough to do the job one done and a few more to do later on also spent quite a few hours Sunday aligning and then making a pulley for a zipline bored out to have about .001-.002" friction fit with the bearing M.J.Lampert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les L Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 MJ, did you anchor the shelf to keep it from tipping over? And always remember that heavy goes on bottom and light on top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Hunter Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Got it mounted, but not sure it's where my wife wants it now. I feel some spackling is in my future... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Looks nice if kind of high for my taste but I like having machinery and tools displayed where I can look it over up close. If you make the Missus happy she'll give you a spackling eh? . . . SWEET! Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmySoldier72 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 SO last week I started putting the Mr Volcano Forge Together. Finished the last coat on Saturday. Sunday the software installation went from 6 hour to 11 hours.. wasted my whole day. BUUUUUUUUUTTTT..... yesterday and today I have been curing the refractory. I started as per instructions, 45 second - cool for 5min and added 5 sec to each burn. My cooling cycles were probably more than 5 minutes, I was trying to do other things. And each cooling there was little or no heat left in the forge when i fired them back up. The ForgeCuring Photo is probably the 3rd firing, first two I did not think to close the back up. Then the Forge-Curing2 is when i finally thought lets close up the front also. I ran it this way until I finally called it quits and the result is Forge-Curing3 Close up of the inside. Forge-Curing 4 So what do you think? look ok? ARMY SE Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Looks good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBones Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Made another hook for the wife. Took the pic before i drilled holes and waxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 You're not getting carried away making those are you Billy? Looking good, I like them both. If I remember the first one I believe they're well matched. That's harder that it seems till you try. Well done. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I couldn’t make two things in a row that match that well if my life depended on it! Thats very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmySoldier72 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 billy, they both look great. How much do they weigh? Thanks Irondragon. TODAY is a NEW DAY!!! Army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Forgot to post after forging a few weeks ago- I know this shape is a little impractical, but I just let the metal do what it wanted and had fun. Forged from leaf spring. Then I had a friend ask if I could make a karambit. Here is my first try at it, with mediocre success. Forged from 3/4” wrench (friend is a mechanic). I think I’ll try again with a 1”, as the hole was a little small to get my index finger in. Finally, I got my first real success at making cable Damascus. Originally 1.25” cable. Forged down to about .5” round. I’m really struggling to get a good etch on it. I’m trying 40% ferric for 18hrs, and that does something but not much. Maybe I just need to leave it longer? Finally, my brother is in town, so over the past couple weeks we made my mother a garden trowel as a late Mother’s Day/birthday gift. This is probably my favorite project I’ve ever done. It was a big challenge, but here we are. The handle is a piece of wood turned spalted tamarind, with a forged and brass brushed blade. It's all finished off with a blue patinated copper collar and a leather loop. We started by trying to use a piece of 1.25” round bar and work it like a giant leaf, but that didn’t work so we turned to a leaf spring. It’s thicker than I want, but overall I’m very pleased. Sorry for the super long post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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