Gergely Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 12 hours ago, BOUNTY FORGE said: Sounds like I should forge stainless in a meat packing plant...everything should be stainless there lol. When you heat SS above 900 C grade it losts its stainless-ness. So you can hot forge it on your anvil with your regular hammer. After the forging you need to reestablish the stainless surface by passivation. (Or surface grinding, or electro polishing.) After you've made the new stainless surface you must be handle it like in a meat packing plant When you hammer your SS cold that's when the stainless hammer and "anvil" may come into the picture. Bests: Gergely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty Forge Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I see, thanks for the info on stainless. I'm interested to see how the finish holds up over time. No big deal really...not like all other hammers and tools don't rust. I currently plan on using passivation, but I still need to read up on electro polishing first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Added some more bed rail to the end of the cart to make a rack for hardy tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 23 hours ago, Daswulf said: In other words, getting the iron to attack the chrome? I havnt messed with it in a few days since I have been finding the heavy work of making the stake anvil good therapy for a very frustrating work week. No, let electrolysis move chrome molecules to the electrode. Chrome plate something that's not a hazmat so you can throw it away and not feel guilty. It might take a more aggressive electrolyte though, a little HCL or H2SO4? Maybe someone who knows something about chemistry will speak up. Remember, electrons are your friends, learn how to ask they'll do your bidding. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I should have time to get back at that this weekend. I have some other things to try first. I really don't want to crawl too deep into the rabbit hole. If it can't be done simply, safe and inexpensive, it just isn't worth it for some extra bits to weld up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherViking Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Hurry up!!! We're all waiting for you to succeed, so we can try it out next Must be good quality chrome and not the typical chineseium grade chrome most things seem to be coated in these days. All you have to do is look at it the wrong way and it starts falling off on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 My method is to buy them with the chrome already missing at the scrap yard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Lol JAB, my test wrench has "good" chrome on it. I want to know it really works. Thomas, kinda why I don't want to go too deep in the rabbit hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherViking Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Now I'm going to have to go to out the other the garage and see if I have any spare spanners sitting around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I don't put anything with chrome on it near my forge and certainly don't weld it. I do use some chrome coated stuff (mainly spanners) occasionally in the recycled art and I just build a big fire and burn the chrome off. It seems that the chrome on most things has an underlayer of copper or nickel or something. If I understand it right, chrome melts at a higher temp than steel and it's the layer of copper that melts and takes the chrome into the ash with it. Edit: I guess that method may be problematic for those in an urban environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, ausfire said: I just build a big fire and burn the chrome off. This is a HORRIBLE idea, as has been discussed here numerous times. Hexavalent chromium is highly toxic, and even if you're not making yourself sick, you're risking the lives and health of everyone downwind. Would you want someone upwind of you putting something in the air that could give your kids lung cancer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherViking Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Couple of small bits today. Leaf keyring, a hook and a dice twist keyring. In hindsight I should have put dots on the cubes before twisting... Oh well, there's always the next one. What I really need to do next is make a better pair of tongs... Might have another go at then tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Better have a word with your post vise as well. I see it sleeping on the job over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherViking Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 It's had a hard life, I'm just letting it have a nap. Actually, it was leaning against the bench, I knocked it over and the u bolt snapped (that holds the spring and mounting bracket together) ... So add a new u bolt to my to do list. Luckily I have some round bar the right size... Hopefully I can dig out a die that'll cut the right size threads. The bench is too high for it, but I've got a source for a load of 6" box section, so I'll be sorting out a movable post for it once that arrives. Bit of concrete poured into the bottom and some plate welded on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranchmanben Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Corkscrew I whipped out for a birthday party this evening. This would have been a good time for smaller maker stamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 next "How to" series will be on No weld tong making and currently in filming and editing.. here are Lip or Drop Lip tongs.. started out with 3/8"X1" there will be 4 to the series I think at this point.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 JLP, thanks for doing your part to offset the bad information out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Ranchmanben said: Corkscrew I whipped out for a birthday party this evening. This would have been a good time for smaller maker stamp. Lovely lines.. Well done.. 1 hour ago, Charles R. Stevens said: JLP, thanks for doing your part to offset the bad information out there My Pleasure my Friend.. It's one of the main reasons I got back involved.. Lots of mighty fine smiths coming up now.. It's great to see.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 4 hours ago, JustAnotherBiker said: The bench is too high for it I have that problem with mine. There are many fixes. I'm kinda holding off on building a new stronger work bench. Ben, Nice work, what steel did you use? I keep thinking they need to be made of higher carbon steel but that might just be a misconception I have. I agree with Charles. It's a great service to Show people good forging info JLP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 JLP, carful who call friend. I take my friends dang serious. My door is always open, coffee can be on and a place at the table set for any one I call friend. Lady, i’m Honored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Can you mount it on the bottom of the top instead of the top? That should get you an inch or two. Also one of my large vises I bought mounted to a bench where they had put a drop down steel strap to mount the vise to ----______---- About 3/8" thick and 4-6" wide. Drop is at least 4". Been in use since about 1918 and still works fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Well the stake anvil hardened in water. I feared a ting but it worked. Now to mount and test it out. Then it will get some embelishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Nice job, Das! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou L Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Nice Das! Did you temper it in the oven? Did you draw more temper in the shaft? This is something I must do one day for sure. It deserves a thread of its own because I’m selfish and want to know everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 53 minutes ago, Lou L said: Nice Das! Did you temper it in the oven? Did you draw more temper in the shaft? This is something I must do one day for sure. It deserves a thread of its own because I’m selfish and want to know everything Lol. I just heated the top portion and risked quenching in water. It is skating a file and I sanded it out a bit. I'm happy so far. Before a ball pien left a divot and now it dosnt. I'll do some further tests ( as in mounting it and forging on it) then I might make its own post. I did do a Lot of grinding tho... So if you are good doing that?... Lol. I must be strange tho. I like grinding and know a lot of people that despise it. @JHCC Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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