JHCC Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Well, these might be the hammers you use for forging stainless in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Well my point was that Being magnetic and being hardenable are both effects of something *ELSE* and so one does not cause the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 For example, I have a magnetic personality, and my middle just keeps getting softer as the years go by. There is no causal relationship between these two things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty Forge Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 TP - I understand what you're saying. JHCC - Good point, at the very least I now have a hammer to work stainless with....also, funny how that happens as time goes by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepinJoe Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I guess that would mean you need to a stainless anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty Forge Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 And the plot thickens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 8 minutes ago, JeepinJoe said: I guess that would mean you need to a stainless anvil. Or a stainless saddle plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty Forge Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Sounds like I should forge stainless in a meat packing plant...everything should be stainless there lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 If you get a meatpacking plant up to forging temperatures, you start to get spoilage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty Forge Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Dang it! That's it...I'll have to make an entire smithy out of pure stainless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 5:44 AM, Daswulf said: The test pieces are still soaking in the permanganate right now. Didn't mess with it yesterday. I've been reading that I may need to heat the solution. May get back to it tonight. And I'm sure breaks in the chrome or a scuffed/ scratched surface would help. Try reversing polarity in your electrolysis tank using the Potassium permanganate solution as electrolyte. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 In other words, getting the iron to attack the chrome? I havnt messed with it in a few days since I have been finding the heavy work of making the stake anvil good therapy for a very frustrating work week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherViking Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Attempted to make a small pair of scrolling tongs out of 1/2" square bar.... 'attempted' being the operative word. On the plus side, no stress cracks, burns, or other complete failures like my first attempt at tongs. On the negative side, the reigns aren't very well matched, the boss area is quite small, and I generally lost patience wanting a quick result. The kids are in bed, and the anvil isn't very quiet (yet), so i've had to stop for the evening and will hopefully try them out tomorrow. If I cut these reigns off, and welded them onto the boss/bit of my other pair, i'd have an ok set... maybe the next ones will be closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, JustAnotherBiker said: and I generally lost patience wanting a quick result. That happens to me too sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 33 minutes ago, JustAnotherBiker said: I generally lost patience wanting a quick result. That's the moment you need to put things down and back slowly away from the anvil. Best case scenario: you mess up your workpiece. Worst case: property damage, injury, or death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherViking Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I was more that I lost patience trying to get matching reigns, and just riveted them together rather than continuing... That and the starting stock was a bit thin for a decent bit/boss so rather than continuing to hammer a lost cause, I stuck it together with an "it'll do" attitude Bad phrasing above on my part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranchmanben Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 10:46 PM, C-1ToolSteel said: I'm happy with the tongs. You should be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Well thankya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 6:34 AM, jlpservicesinc said: Very nice.. Did you punch the legs and ring with square holes or round? Also be sure to keep in mind the handle position and handle weight need to be taken into consideration when mounted on the web between feet as this can make the trivet side heavy and slightly unstable, this can be offset with putting the handle in line with a leg/foot or make the opposite leg/foot a little heavier for proper balance.. Heart trivets usually plenty of weight at the offset side.. Otherwise you nailed it.. Excellent work on all your projects.. Really making me want to be a better smith myself.. One of the highest compliments I know how to give.. The level of work you are producing is awesome.. Congrats to you Sir.. I know there is a love for blacksmithing as your dedication to learning and practice says it all.. Wow, thank you very much!!! I punched the legs, though with round holes. I thought about doing square, but I have already made a few trivets and used them a lot, and haven't ever had any problems with the legs coming loose. This on is for me, so if they ever do get lose a little tap and no big deal. I was worried about it being to heavy and even possibly tipping over on it's own, was glad to see that it was able to stand on its own, and rather stable too. Will keep that in mind for the next one though. Thank you very much, that means a lot coming from you!!! Nice job Chris on your tongs! littleblacksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Almost finished with the stake anvil. Forged out the horn part then a Lot of grinding. I know how to do another one better now IF I make another. Next up is a little more grinding/sanding maybe a little engraving then to risk it all and harden it. I can see the ring on the top where the torsion bar was riveted into the hammer eye so who knows how hardening will go. Heck all I know is that it all spark tested high carbon. I'll try oil first then brine if needed and cross my fingers the whole time. Main body face width is 2" and length is 10 3/4". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I bought a stake anvil tonight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I have never even seen one in person let alone for sale. I figure after the toils and trouble I'll see them everywhere. Is it wrought or steel? I saw simpler versions online but sure if I didn't pick something hard to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 High pitched ting; no signs of striations. my guess is steel; which seems off for ACW; I wonder how long they were being made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 No idea. Very cool find tho. One thing is for sure, I'm hoping for no tings while hardening mine. I did see a neat one made of rr track top where they cut the webbing into the stake part. Also one of my original ideas was to just upset the end of the 1 1/4" torsion bar into a block stake anvil. I saved that part of the torsion bar to try that later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Not in the shop, but realized that the persistent irritation in my left eye was a grain of grinder grit stuck at the edge of the iris. Fortunately, it was not imbedded so deeply that I couldn’t get it out with some careful Q-tippage. Much better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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