jlpservicesinc Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Les, slow go. Waiting on building delivery. Delivery date was 5-8weeks from construction drawing sign off. Lots of behind the scenes type things like wood pile moving and such. I was overly optimistic for the 5 week mark. As long as I can get the frame up and roof on before snow sets in ,things should work out timing wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les L Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Behind the scenes never stops for me and usually slows my projects down. I hope Mother Nature helps you out with getting it up before the snow sets in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 we've had a week of rain. There is some points in between that work can be done. but dang. It was fantastic all summer. LOL. Everything is as its supposed to be or else it would be different. Thanks. Me too. At least i have the use of a Lull so as long as I can find some help to run it it should go up quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 And you will have some wood to heat the inside a bit with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Yup. money wise things will be tight since it's a paid out of pocket kind of deal. So anyway to use the resources all ready in place is the better way to go. I picked up an oil fired forced hot air furnace 6 years ago with tank, but will just have to see how it all fits together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I picked up a small 2 plate coal stove at a local auction to run in my shop using wood. Was from an old school where all the rooms had a similar one and they were all being sold off. I waited till pretty much everyone was sated on them. Now to extract it from my wife's studio where it's buried in the storage closet. With how open my shop is it will be more of an IR source and hot drink maintainer (10' side walls and open gables, I'm a real believer that CO is NOT my friend!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Mr. Powers, Could you, please, post a picture of the 2 plate coal stove once you excavate it from your wife's studio. I am curious about how such a stove looks like. Thank you. SLAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 boy that will be nice. Do you even need a heat source in the winter in NM. My friend used to live in TX and he always complained when it was in the 50's. 50's here is consider great working weather.. IN fact most complain when it gets anything over 82F.. there is somethings about the building which once things had gotten pinned down more that was was surprised about. Few changes in height and such. I was told originally that the side wall comes standard with a 10ft height. So I had the foundation go up an extra 2ft which would have given me a 12ft sidewall for a full 12ft door. I had assumed that the center would on a 4:12 pitch come in around 18ft ridge. Now it is going to be 12' 9 3/8" sidewall height so just over 14ft sidewall. I just got the finial delivery build and it is going to be closer to 20ft + at the ridge as they increased the side wall height. 2ft doesn't seem like much when you are on the ground but from a heating and cooling perspective over the length of 60ft It changes things a little. It does mean now I will have clearance for a second floor setup over the office so that is kind of cool. Storage and such for paperwork and shipping supplies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 JLP: Loft for minions to sleep in! Slag, sure. I'm over booked this weekend; but maybe the one after I will be able to get that done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 Could be.. it will eventually have a Kitchenette and a bathroom with shower. Whos to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 10 hours ago, jlpservicesinc said: and roof on before snow sets in ,things should work out timing wise. Pretty traditional here in New England to set the roof during the first ice or snow storm of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 Judson, why is that the case? summer hay season? I find this is very typical. Every thing I have every built seems to always have the roof going on, just before the snow stays. I was really hoping to have it be sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 We closed the roof of our house in Vermont the day after Christmas 1984. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 7:08 PM, ThomasPowers said: "Slag, sure. I'm over booked this weekend; but maybe the one after …" Thomas, Thanks: there is no rush. I'm just curious. SLAG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I think it's a function of "at the last minute". You can keep putting it off for higher priority tasks; but there comes a time where it has to be done *NOW* or left till next spring, losing all that winter time to work on the insides. My building projects usually proceed slowly until enough stuff has been scrounged to do the basic project and then a short flurry of overwork to get it done. I'm in the scrounging phase of adding a shed roof carport to the front of my shop. My hard cutoff is more the excessive sun and temperatures of summer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Desert rats tend to be nocturnal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Night Vision tends to get worse with age. Working on a roof in the dark seems like a good way to give up smithing for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les L Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Jennifer, if the students are cold they’re not working hard enough! Thomas, I know what you mean about losing your night vision, I used to walk through the woods to my deer stand an hour before daylight, or after dark back to the truck, without a light now I need light to go to the other side of the truck to get my stuff and head out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Ok, well in the last 3 days the storage container arrived for the insulation. I was told by the insulation person that a 25ft container would be enough for the insulation. I figured I'd rather have a little extra room so ordered a 40'. good thing to, as it was full by the time we unloaded the delivery semi. So, Wednesday was the container, Thursday was the insulation and today was the building. Took nearly 3hrs to unload the stuff from the truck. I have decided that todays businesses that send out products try to keep it all to themselves.I'm referring to insider knowledge with script and descriptors. I worked at a shipping company when I was much, much younger and we would label everything and put package 1 of 10 if there were 10 packages, etc, etc. The insulation was not marked with anything that resembled the bill of lading so had to call them to learn there language/ script. Then with the building arriving some of the items were hidden in between other stacks. Metal shapes inside metal shapes. The bill of lading was nearly useless as was the loadout sheet as it would have been a 2 day job before sign off with the driver I think the companies do that now. Yes, I'm complaining. It makes it both difficult and frustrating. Spent hours moving stuff around and making sure I/we would know which part is which. Also the order stuff was loaded on the truck was all random. the items needed to be installed first were in the middle of the pile loaded on the truck. Yup complaining again. Anyhow, today was the first day of real building construction. It was a long day.. Wish there were 4 of me.. Would make things so much simpler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, jlpservicesinc said: Wish there were 4 of me.. Would make things so much simpler. Lord, no. The world can barely handle the one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Crew Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I have built this type of building for a living in the past and have helped many people build things for free. Mass a i can't spellit is to far for me to drive Sorry i can't spend a day or 2 and help you get going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, JHCC said: Lord, no. The world can barely handle the one! Not sure that is a good or a bad thing.. I certainly could use a few more put to work. The first few uprights with no ladder and I scaled up them as they are and undid the chains. There is so much of this stuff that I barely remember. I ended up getting a length of rope and making a quick release so could be on the ground and give it a good pull and the sling would release. I don't know anyone else who could have scaled up the beams with just feet and hands. That is the part I'm talking about. The next series of events will for sure be longing for capable help. Have 2 days before the rain comes in which means here.. I have 2 days before the snow comes in. 3 minutes ago, Old Crew said: I have built this type of building for a living in the past and have helped many people build things for free. Mass a i can't spellit is to far for me to drive Sorry i can't spend a day or 2 and help you get going Well if you are interested. I'd pay you for your time. Problem I have is skilled boots on the ground. i'm running the LULL, stringing up the parts, organizing things ( My buddy Andrew did a great job getting familiar with the items and which is which) and tomorrow is the first day of working at the tops with scrabbling on the trusses. Fun for sure. I can't spell it either. I use spell checker.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllife Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Make sure you install some temporary bracing as soon as you get the first bay set. Partially erected pre-engineered buildings have been known to fall down if not braced. We use a bracket that bolts to one of the anchor bolts and use some big 20 ton?? come a longs to square it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Perhaps contacting “Big as fans” would help with pushing the heat back down. They make some realy big cealing fans. Tho if memory serves a dozen gassforges heated the shoeing barn up pretty fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 good to see you are in the home stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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