JHCC Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 At least your lesson doesn't involve scalpels and antibiotics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad.blacksmithing Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 That's right, I'm definitely glad of that JHCC. Hope I can harden this blade right. good luck with your forging. drms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Most folks I know going for a differential temper place the edge in the water and then use the torch on the spine. (Hard for double edged blades!) Another method is to use tempering tongs. (Found a set at the fleamarket for US$5 once---they didn't know what they were.....Bwahahahahahahahah.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Here’s a pair I made from a pair of twist tongs that didn’t work out and some chunks of 1-1/4” round. And speaking of tongs, the cold shut on the offset tongs turned out to be a surface issue only, so that’s good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3ssure Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Tried forging my first piece. Made a coal rake from 3/8 round. The loop ended up a little crooked but I’m gonna fix it tomorrow. I started making a rake from flat bar as well to practice drawing out. Didn’t get too much done on it before it was dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Greetings Pr3ssure, Lookin good for your first piece. Try working a little hotter not so hot on thin stock. Take your time . What I tell my students. ( PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE YOUR SUCCESS IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONATE TO YOUR SCRAP PILE ) Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Lapidow Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 I was asked to make something for a auction at a living history farm I volunteer at. So I made this out of 2 horse shoes from one of the farms horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pr3ssure Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Jim Coke said: Lookin good for your first piece. Thanks Jim, I’ve still gotta work on heating the right places in the coal. By the end of the day I was doing alright but I don’t think my fire was centered in the pot. I’m hoping to wake up before the heat tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Have a guy interested in coctail spoons. This is my first botched attempt minus passivation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Das, Methinks thou art, entirely too modest, Sir. You call your latest creation "botched" ? What should I call my collection of attempts, usually consigned to the (s)cr*p pile? Creative? Better said GYAHHH !! You are setting the standards way too high for some of us, smithing mediocrities. SLAG. p.s. my 'alienist' thinks my iron banging-mangling is therapeutic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Try one with two twists in the handle with a shortish untwisted section between them for a different look. Easier to control the twists that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 21 hours ago, JHCC said: Harder to do with split-rein tongs, but not impossible. Wow, i"m impressed if you made them out of split rein.. Jealous actually as that is a great bit of work with the offset/bolt jaw.. Impressive.. We have go to spend some time together so we can get you forge welding.. I love the fact you use the split method so often.. But we need to get you forge welding.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 7 hours ago, SLAG said: You call your latest creation "botched" ? Yeah, well ok, it didn't end up in the scrap pile, but it's not up to what I was wanting. I rushed it tho. The spoon part turned out fine. Its the twists and finial. I might have to make another as a "sample" for the interested gentleman. Thanks for the idea Glenn. I think I'll try that on the next. Also think I'll break out the torches to heat for the twist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, jlpservicesinc said: Wow, i"m impressed if you made them out of split rein.. Jealous actually as that is a great bit of work with the offset/bolt jaw.. Impressive.. Thank you! The treadle hammer makes splitting the reins so easy (even easier now, with the added weight in the head) that almost all of the work lies in preforming, shaping, and fitting the jaws. (I should add that while these are functional, I’m not very happy with how the nibs came out. I’ll just have to make another pair....) 1 hour ago, jlpservicesinc said: We have go to spend some time together so we can get you forge welding.. I love the fact you use the split method so often.. But we need to get you forge welding.. That would be nice. I learned forge-welding back in the day, but I am horribly out of practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hoover Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Nowhere near y'all in skill. My first attempt. Only 99 more to go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Good first attempt. You'll have fun seeing how you progress getting better at it with more. Keep that one to look back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Where do you plan to put the mounting screws? In the leaf they take away a bit of the leafyness; many people will use a center punch like punch to expand the shaft under the leaf to put 2 screw holes in it. Now if you use old dome headed wood screws you could decorate them to look like ladybugs/ladybirds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hoover Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Daswulf said: Good first attempt. You'll have fun seeing how you progress getting better at it with more. Keep that one to look back on. I'll update every 25th one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 1:14 PM, metaldrms said: I learned that I will never take a torch to the spine of a knife to temper a little more. I did that today and I was going slow and low with the torch and saw a straw color coming from the spine and all of the sudden it turned purple and rushed to the edge. I put the blade in water to try to stop this madness but I file tested and it is extremely soft so I gotta heat treat again. Gotta love 5160 for how fast the temper colors run. I'm just making an educated guess you were heat treating 5160 spring steel, I haven't read beyond this post today. From my limited bladesmithing experience the only way I was able to get a progressive temper was to put a chill block on the edge and even then I got a dark straw instead of pale. I'll see if I guessed right when I open the next page. Bullet Dodging Blind Miserable John? Cool, we'll be able to say, "We knew him when he was just John the Grammar Hammer." Oh to be so close to fame and fortune. We'll be the envy of all! Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Made a second coctail spoon as a sample for the comissioner. Might send a picure of this one even though its longer than the normal ones. Still could do better on the twists. Ugh. Sorry, didnt try the reverse on this one Glenn. I do dig it more tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Had a nice visit with LouL, who showed me his in-progress forge and NARB. We threw together a quick Frosty T-burner from some of the spare parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Olson Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 . 9 hours ago, Ben Hoover said: Nowhere near y'all in skill. My first attempt. Only 99 more to go!! Hey Ben. Leaves are fun. You have the right shape so now experiment. Make some different viening fullers to see what you like. That one could use more viening but the shape is good. Like you said , only a whole bunch more to make. I does get easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincinnatus Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 My wife wanted some pumpkins to put around the barn. Her friend already put in an order for some more so it looks like this is my next project this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hoover Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 12:04 AM, Kevin Olson said: . Hey Ben. Leaves are fun. You have the right shape so now experiment. Make some different viening fullers to see what you like. That one could use more viening but the shape is good. Like you said , only a whole bunch more to make. I does get easier Gonna try something this weekend. We will see if it succeeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dax Hewitt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Ben your first leaf looks about as good as my 6th, seeing as I haven't been able to use my forge for 2 weeks now it's probably better than my No7 and no8 will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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