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  • 6 months later...

Howdy.. 

Extremely slowly..  With the Farrier work and the side items that draw my attention especially in the spring (yard, flowers, spring time clean up, etc, etc) I have not really done anything other than work in the space on the other mechanical side distractions. 

A late 50's  Davis taskforce 200 and about a month ago I picked up a late 60's IH 3800 backhoe ..  

The Davis needed a complete redo on the drive line..  

And the  IH has been taking care of the neglect and terrible repairs to keep it running. 
The wiring harnesses for the whole machine were really bad so started with them..  Console, glow plugs, changed trans oil.  

Once the stuff is done I'm currectly working on I will take the brakes apart to get them working. 

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And a few of the IH3800..  For such a large machine, there is no room to work on anything. 

I sorted all the hydraulic lines that reside under the floor boards.. They were crossed over and interfering with the trans selector.  

This was a 4hr job...  

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Jennifer, wow!  Those are projects which are WAY beyond my exprtise or motivation.  The Davis looks like a cool little machine capable of a lot of different jobs.

Luckily< I have a very nice next door neighbor who has a backhoe who comes over to dig out our driveway after big snow storms.a

Is that you mugging at the right end of the back hoe boom?

Good work.

George

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George,   Wow is right..  Not my favorite kinds of activities but it's what I can afford..   Buy low and spend the time bringing back to life.   The Davis  is amazing..  We have wet clay soil and this little sweetie pulled a water soaked 28" X 12ft ash up out of the mud.. 75ft to the bucking area. 

The machine itself has unlimited possibilities as a platform..   It's a 12.5HP Wisconsin, 2speed transmission and hydro drive. 

it was originally a trencher which was removed many years ago from the looks of it..   My plan for the machine is to put a 3point hit on it with hydraulicly driven PTO.. 

I've been looking for a backhoe for it but all the units are to big or to expensive.. If I can find one in the 800 range I'll by it. 

The IH3800 is just such a cool looking machine and the price was right.   I contacted the guy back in December and never got a response..  Guy contacted me end of May asking if I was still interested in the machine.. 

Any yes that is my Mug..  Not the nicest photo of me but thought it was funny..  

Super handy and runs mint.

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I love old machines if i was closer i would love to help work on those at my work we just got a rock crusher patented in 1943 and made in 1974 they didn't change the design the entire time:D. The best part though is that the powerhouse is a early 50s d8 cat motor with a two cylinder pup motor will try to get photos sometime

M.J.Lampert

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M.J. Lambert..  The thought is mighty appreciated..  I love old iron.. All of it..  Wish I had the ability to buy a steam shovel or old steam truck..   Be really neat. 

I got all the lights working though I need to find a low draw blinka relay.. I installed an LED light and it does not draw enough current to make it blink.. 

There has some wiring stuff which I don't really understand..  The console is completely powered even when key is off. 

It looks as though the key really only controls engine functions vs lights and such. 

I'm used to a key controlling everything including the lights.. 

The wiring is not as clean as I like to do.. But, I had to add wires which were not in the schematics to get the function I want. 

The lights orginally were not grounded on a separate ground wire..  So added this wire and a few others.. 

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Night switch?  Do you mean one of those timer devices to turn on lights and such when away? 

I have a new key switch from Polk that is a 3 position vs 2 position.  

The key switch in there now is simply to energize the fuel injection pump and to energize like 2 other things.. 

Otherwise the whole console is live..  Not exactly how I would wire it.. But it's what was in the book.

Now parasitic losses or draws so far..  The battery keeps it's charge.. 

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More commonly known as a "master switch" on equipment. It disconnects the battery from everything. Be imaginative when you hide the master. One of my favorite locations was out of sight behind the air filter but easy to reach you checked the oil. There's nothing suspicious about checking the oil but reaching up under a fender before starting it can catch folk's attention.

Frosty The Lucky.

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So spent some time organizing the shop in preparation for getting work going again.  

Yesterday I did just that..

I started to hang the propane Infra red tube heater.  Because of the layout I went with a 150K unit 50ft long.  

I think I have the measurements and mounting location correct. You can see where the burner is located just in front of the top of the door. This close you certainly don't want the IR tubes heating the back of the door. 

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Jennifer:  I am unfamiliar with this type of propane heater.  Does it burn propane and then blow hot air out of a perforated tube into the shop?  Does it have to be vented to the outside?  Is there an issue with mounting it high in the shop where the upper area will be heated first and it takes some time for the floor level to get warm?

I've been thinking of a wall furnace for my shop but this could be an alternative.

Thanks.

George

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The burner fires super heated exhaust through the tube heating it radiating heat around the shop. They have an exhaust stack or some sort but I don't recall looking close enough to know what and where it is. The one we had in one shop had a long polished reflector over the top to direct the IR downward. 

What I liked was how quiet it was, sort of like a loud water heater, nothing like a fan driven garage heater and those aren't bad. IR heat is nice, it's like having the sun shining on you all day.

That's just a general description of how the things work, I don't know about Jennifer's though.

Frosty The Lucky.

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George the IR tube heaters have no pores or holes that I know of..  The flame runs down the inside of the tube and makes it glow orange..  This is then reflected off the mirror deflectors in the direction of the open area of the reflector. 

This type of heater heats the objects vs the air so when the objects are picked up they are warm to the touch vs cold with warm air. 

Since it heats the objects all the machinery and equipment runs better on the cold days since the inners get warmed up quickly. 

This types sip fuel and are very reasonable cost wise to purchase.  This heater complete with install kit was 1380.00 vs other types which are big money..  Getting a 120gallon tank outside can be done for free and just the cost of the propane is paid. 

Not a great video but covers theory. 
 

 

It has an intake from outside and an exhaust that routes outside.. 

Exhaust can be mounted horizontally or vertically. 

I have an HL3 model 150K

https://www.reverberray.com/products/commercial-industrial/low-intensity-infrared-radiant-tube-heaters/hl3-series-2/

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So, got a little more done. 

 

As with all things, one doesn't know until one knows. 

I ordered the install kit with the heater and it came with dog chain.  

 

Not the easiest to adjust evenly. So will have to count links.

 

I ordered some turnbuckle as I'm not thrilled with the dog chain.  

Will be easy to swap the chain out once its up.

 

Nice clear spot in front of the furnace duct now. 

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Good Morning Jennifer,

I had a Natural Gas Infared Heater put in our Shop, 3-4 years ago. It is the Best Heat and not that expensive!! When the shop doors are open, you don't loose all the heat. No rush getting the doors closed. 5 minutes after starting, the shop feels the warmth. No benefit leaving the heat on all night, turn it down, yes, enough to keep the Ice away. I consider putting infared in one of the best decisions we ever made.

Neil

 

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