ThomasPowers Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Do you have a method of circulating hot air down from the ceiling area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 Thomas, not yet.. Even if I did, there would be no way to power it.. Plan is to make 2 air circulation units with remotes and filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 It’s been a little while, How’s the school coming along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 Howdy.. Extremely slowly.. With the Farrier work and the side items that draw my attention especially in the spring (yard, flowers, spring time clean up, etc, etc) I have not really done anything other than work in the space on the other mechanical side distractions. A late 50's Davis taskforce 200 and about a month ago I picked up a late 60's IH 3800 backhoe .. The Davis needed a complete redo on the drive line.. And the IH has been taking care of the neglect and terrible repairs to keep it running. The wiring harnesses for the whole machine were really bad so started with them.. Console, glow plugs, changed trans oil. Once the stuff is done I'm currectly working on I will take the brakes apart to get them working. And a few of the IH3800.. For such a large machine, there is no room to work on anything. I sorted all the hydraulic lines that reside under the floor boards.. They were crossed over and interfering with the trans selector. This was a 4hr job... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Jennifer, wow! Those are projects which are WAY beyond my exprtise or motivation. The Davis looks like a cool little machine capable of a lot of different jobs. Luckily< I have a very nice next door neighbor who has a backhoe who comes over to dig out our driveway after big snow storms.a Is that you mugging at the right end of the back hoe boom? Good work. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rojo Pedro Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Cool pictures. Love that little dozer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share Posted July 17, 2022 George, Wow is right.. Not my favorite kinds of activities but it's what I can afford.. Buy low and spend the time bringing back to life. The Davis is amazing.. We have wet clay soil and this little sweetie pulled a water soaked 28" X 12ft ash up out of the mud.. 75ft to the bucking area. The machine itself has unlimited possibilities as a platform.. It's a 12.5HP Wisconsin, 2speed transmission and hydro drive. it was originally a trencher which was removed many years ago from the looks of it.. My plan for the machine is to put a 3point hit on it with hydraulicly driven PTO.. I've been looking for a backhoe for it but all the units are to big or to expensive.. If I can find one in the 800 range I'll by it. The IH3800 is just such a cool looking machine and the price was right. I contacted the guy back in December and never got a response.. Guy contacted me end of May asking if I was still interested in the machine.. Any yes that is my Mug.. Not the nicest photo of me but thought it was funny.. 20220422_185229.mp4 Super handy and runs mint. 20220422_184134.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Checking out the pic of the backhoe and arms, looks like you have all the power you need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J.Lampert Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I love old machines if i was closer i would love to help work on those at my work we just got a rock crusher patented in 1943 and made in 1974 they didn't change the design the entire time. The best part though is that the powerhouse is a early 50s d8 cat motor with a two cylinder pup motor will try to get photos sometime M.J.Lampert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 M.J. Lambert.. The thought is mighty appreciated.. I love old iron.. All of it.. Wish I had the ability to buy a steam shovel or old steam truck.. Be really neat. I got all the lights working though I need to find a low draw blinka relay.. I installed an LED light and it does not draw enough current to make it blink.. There has some wiring stuff which I don't really understand.. The console is completely powered even when key is off. It looks as though the key really only controls engine functions vs lights and such. I'm used to a key controlling everything including the lights.. The wiring is not as clean as I like to do.. But, I had to add wires which were not in the schematics to get the function I want. The lights orginally were not grounded on a separate ground wire.. So added this wire and a few others.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J.Lampert Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 if you dont end up getting the lights to turn off, the easiest is to hide a night switch in your main powerline this prevents any draw to to battery this also prevents unwanted use of the machine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 Night switch? Do you mean one of those timer devices to turn on lights and such when away? I have a new key switch from Polk that is a 3 position vs 2 position. The key switch in there now is simply to energize the fuel injection pump and to energize like 2 other things.. Otherwise the whole console is live.. Not exactly how I would wire it.. But it's what was in the book. Now parasitic losses or draws so far.. The battery keeps it's charge.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J.Lampert Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 night switch is what we call a simple high amperage on-off switch mounted on machines or vehicles that you turn off when you shut the machine off for the day thus preventing draws overnight from radios etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 I get it.. Have used them on race cars that have voltage leaks.. I have automatic switches on the Ford that will kick off depending on voltage.. As soon as you put the key on it reengages so it can be started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 More commonly known as a "master switch" on equipment. It disconnects the battery from everything. Be imaginative when you hide the master. One of my favorite locations was out of sight behind the air filter but easy to reach you checked the oil. There's nothing suspicious about checking the oil but reaching up under a fender before starting it can catch folk's attention. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 So spent some time organizing the shop in preparation for getting work going again. Yesterday I did just that.. I started to hang the propane Infra red tube heater. Because of the layout I went with a 150K unit 50ft long. I think I have the measurements and mounting location correct. You can see where the burner is located just in front of the top of the door. This close you certainly don't want the IR tubes heating the back of the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Jennifer: I am unfamiliar with this type of propane heater. Does it burn propane and then blow hot air out of a perforated tube into the shop? Does it have to be vented to the outside? Is there an issue with mounting it high in the shop where the upper area will be heated first and it takes some time for the floor level to get warm? I've been thinking of a wall furnace for my shop but this could be an alternative. Thanks. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 The burner fires super heated exhaust through the tube heating it radiating heat around the shop. They have an exhaust stack or some sort but I don't recall looking close enough to know what and where it is. The one we had in one shop had a long polished reflector over the top to direct the IR downward. What I liked was how quiet it was, sort of like a loud water heater, nothing like a fan driven garage heater and those aren't bad. IR heat is nice, it's like having the sun shining on you all day. That's just a general description of how the things work, I don't know about Jennifer's though. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 George the IR tube heaters have no pores or holes that I know of.. The flame runs down the inside of the tube and makes it glow orange.. This is then reflected off the mirror deflectors in the direction of the open area of the reflector. This type of heater heats the objects vs the air so when the objects are picked up they are warm to the touch vs cold with warm air. Since it heats the objects all the machinery and equipment runs better on the cold days since the inners get warmed up quickly. This types sip fuel and are very reasonable cost wise to purchase. This heater complete with install kit was 1380.00 vs other types which are big money.. Getting a 120gallon tank outside can be done for free and just the cost of the propane is paid. Not a great video but covers theory. It has an intake from outside and an exhaust that routes outside.. Exhaust can be mounted horizontally or vertically. I have an HL3 model 150K https://www.reverberray.com/products/commercial-industrial/low-intensity-infrared-radiant-tube-heaters/hl3-series-2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I was CLOSE anyway. Thanks for the specifics, Jennifer. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Radiant heat rules. I've done two infloor water systems and wood heat works the same.\ Never seen this type before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 So, got a little more done. As with all things, one doesn't know until one knows. I ordered the install kit with the heater and it came with dog chain. Not the easiest to adjust evenly. So will have to count links. I ordered some turnbuckle as I'm not thrilled with the dog chain. Will be easy to swap the chain out once its up. Nice clear spot in front of the furnace duct now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedefiddle Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Good Morning Jennifer, I had a Natural Gas Infared Heater put in our Shop, 3-4 years ago. It is the Best Heat and not that expensive!! When the shop doors are open, you don't loose all the heat. No rush getting the doors closed. 5 minutes after starting, the shop feels the warmth. No benefit leaving the heat on all night, turn it down, yes, enough to keep the Ice away. I consider putting infared in one of the best decisions we ever made. Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 Hi Neil, Thanks for the input and support.. I looked and looked for a heat source that would make sense.. The multi fuel furnace and this IR unit should keep the shop toasty no matter what.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Jennifer, thanks for the info. This opens up some possibilities for shop heat. Two final questions: Does it ignite with an electric starter? I assume there is an electric blower which must be wired into a 110v circut. Correct? Thanks, George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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