Blackwaterforge Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I have probably worn out (Destroyed) fifty pair of these glasses. They where a great product, made in USA and with classic styling. I am not given over to change :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweany Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 http://www.fullsource.com/bouton-spectacle-safety-glasses/ Looks like some here, try ebay too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Before I had to start wearing scrips I wore Uvex, wrap arounds in coffee tint. Now I wear crizell (SP?) coated poly carb perscription lenses with side shields. Frosty the Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWHII Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I ware the same style as you but wire ear pieces. I just got a new pair from my local optical shop who specializes in safety glasses. Mine are perscription though with 1.75 magnifiers in them. A bit pricey but the should last a long time and I can have the lences change out in them. If you have a old pair that the frames are good have new lences put in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Esposito Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'm still not quite understanding the hazards associated with UV and IR radiation from the forge. Is this only a hazard with a fire that is forge welding heat, or is it a hazard with any forge fire? What glasses should you use? I've heard some discussions on this forum say all you need is a welding shade #3, others recommend the didymium glasses. Is the principle concern UV or IR or both. I have found no common concensus on these forums. I love blacksmithing, but certainly want to keep my eyes in fine shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccustomknives Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Well certainly a forges output of UV isn't what a welding arc is but prolonged exposure can cause long term damage. Shade 3 lenses work good for heavy forging. I use indoor/outdoor tint for light work when it's dark or well shaded. You can pick up sh3 safetyglasses at your local welding supply as well as other styles. I priced the didymium and liked to have passed out. They are proud of those. I do a lot of forging, less welding. The welding will give me a nice sunburn in less than 30 secs, a full day of forging I get nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Furrer Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Didymium does next to NOTHING for our forges. It does WONDEFUL things for sodium flare off of glass work. Most of the UV protection on those glasses is from the gold coating. Shade three is just fine for most all the forging you will ever do. Ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 I tried to find shade 3.0 in grey, but the only ones I could get were green. I got them but seem to distort the temp colors. At this point I've been avoiding looking into the forge except to check the stock's color. Mine is a coal burner and I try to keep something in the way of the hottest or brightest part, as well as moving further away until I ready to remove whatever it is I'm heating. Do you wear them all the time when forging or for only forge welding? Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptree Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 In a comercial forge shop, using large gas forges, the "heaters", those workmen managing the forge and loading billets into and out of the forge will wear shade 4 glasses in green. But then the are looking into a large incandescent forge 8 hours a day. Shade 3 should be fine for hobby forge. You can easily get flip up shade 3 or shade 4 lens, that allow ease in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtownAndrew Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Most of the shade 3 glasses offered are for those who do not already wear glasses. However, as ptree said there are also clip on flip up ones available. I use the ones shown at the link below that work well. I can see fine outdoors during the day and inside with good lighting. I am also able to judge the temp of metal wearing these. http://www.amazon.com/3M-Protective-Eyewear-Infrared-40427-00000-10/dp/B007JZ3WOU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1368155647&sr=8-1&keywords=b007jz3wou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Didymium is for glass blowing, for forges use Rose1 to filter out the IR waves, ask the eye doctor. Also there is litttle to no UV form a coal forge, and not much from a gasser either, and simple basic standard polycarbonate safety lenz blocks UV. read more, panic less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I thought it was the IR you needed to be concerned with that potentially causes cataracts? Though I've read that's more at forge welding temps, the amount of IR decreases over distance and can be shielded by anything that's at a cooler temp. All of what I just typed could be horse hooey as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtownAndrew Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I asked my optometrist about this last week during an eye exam and he had no idea. He said that it seemed like a valid question but he had never been asked it before and they had not covered anything on it in his schooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I have a friend who is an ophthalmologist and opthalmological surgeon; when he heard I did smithing he had a long talk with me about eye hazards: foreign body is the greatest hazard; followed by IR, UV is pretty much squat unless you are arc welding. Out here in NM you get more from the sunlight than you do from a forge in a shady shop! As far as radiation goes---don't forget that coal is radioactive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtownAndrew Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I have a friend who is an ophthalmologist and opthalmological surgeon; when he heard I did smithing he had a long talk with me about eye hazards: foreign body is the greatest hazard; followed by IR, UV is pretty much squat unless you are arc welding. Out here in NM you get more from the sunlight than you do from a forge in a shady shop! As far as radiation goes---don't forget that coal is radioactive! So what was his recommendation for smithing? Shade 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Esposito Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 here an interesting PDF on the eye damage associated with IR. http://www.optometry.co.uk/uploads/articles/33aa07d53d20b5cbc6f17ffc81f0dc94_Voke1990521.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Esposito Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Is looking at hot iron a hazard, or just looking at the fire, or both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJergensen Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Both. Anything that is, say, 2000° F will emit the same spectrum of IR, light and UV. However, a furnace / forge is going to send a lot more to your eye because it will be a much higher % of your total field of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JShock Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I have tried several different classes on the last year and a half. Centaur Forge has some but they sell them the Didumium ones for 50$ and the Regular clear ones for 20$. Ive found Bouton, ACE and Crews in this same style. I really love these. They stay on my head and I went from occasionally getting things in my eyes around the glasses to never getting anything in my eyes. A little Google searching was in order to find a dealer that did not sell in bulk though. Ace - http://www.centaurforge.com/Safety-Glasses/products/133/ Bouton - http://www.hlbouton.com/hlb5900.html Crews - http://www.stoodyind.com/Catalogs/FISC/05catpg570.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Didymiun lenses filter "Sodium Yellow" and don't do much when looking at hot iron, forge interiors, etc. They were "invented?" primarily for glass blowers. I have an almost brand new pair, been in my tool box for at least 20+ years and haven't found a good use for them yet. Who knows though maybe I'll take up glass torch work. It's HOT and dangerous, why not? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Special Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Been using a bunch of my old leftover army issue ballistic eye pro from deployment. I figure if they were meant to stop shrapnel............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Frog Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 For my gas forging, I was aware of the IR radiation, so I found these and like them: http://www.safetyglassesusa.com/s25arcs.html They say they block 75% of the IR, and have minimal tint to them. Been happy with them so far, on my last order I went ahead and bought three sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrex Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hey Everyone, I have been wearing clear safety glasses while forging and noticed that looking into the fire when it is white hot causes very temporary sun spots after looking away from the forge. I tried using my nice oakleys and the effect completely went away. Do most people use tinted glasses when forging? Do you all have any suggestions for a good pair of goggles. I have no problems spending 50+ dollars if that is what is needed or best to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beth Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 i always use my ox ace glasses when forging for the same reason you said - i never use anything else :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intrex Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Are you talking about smith ox goggles? I actually have a pair of those for snowboarding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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