JHCC Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Here are some photos of the bending jig. Three 1/2" posts: one square, two round. Set up as a bending fork for scrolling freehand: Set up with a 1/2" drive socket as a fixed-radius jig: When I get a chance, I think I'll weld these to some bits of angle iron, for a bit more stability and ease of adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Melancon Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 So I was going to build a forge but a friend near me let me borrow his. This is the fruits of day one. That is an oak board handle with brass pins. The finished looking one is quenched (while the other one isn't) and and now skates a file with a fine edge to match. Slices some water bottles and thick cardboard clean like it wasn't there. Also I think I'm now addicted. It's just simple, clean fun. I have some stock welded together and I think I'll try forge welding next. Also I love that I got two whole knives per file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 That has got to be the biggest quench tank I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeltree Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 called a super quench,,,with chlorine with a little bit of kiddie urine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroclick Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 On 2017-6-17 at 5:32 AM, Frosty said: Yeah, getting rings like that even and smooth isn't as easy as you'd think. Try modeling the ring with wire on a long tapered alignment , prick punch, spud wrench or bull pins are excellent, or pick a piece of rd. rod the dia you like. If you use the prick punch use a sharpie or something to mark the dia. you want. Mark where you want the center of the loop away from the ends. Heat it and wrap it around the mandrel till the ends cross, in line facing opposite directions. Heat it up, drop it on the mandrel and twist the ends till the finial is right. Another method than using the mandrel is to place the ring in the vise with the ends up and twist it. It really just takes practice and if you don't do this for a while rust grows quickly though some folk just have a knack. I have to work at it to get rings right. Hit the garage, yard, etc. sales with an eye out for punches, chisels, Allan wrenches, etc. A little sweet talking and you can usually get them thrown in on another sale or buy them all for not much. Frosty The Lucky. Thanks Frosty I'll give both of those techniques a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Turned a cut-off axle spline into a header for 5/16" shank diameter rivets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Got some magic done on an old lathe tool: Before: After: Bests: Gergely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anachronist58 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Man you really messed that thing up! Kidding! Looks cool, er, hot! Robert Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 That is or was a boring bar right? How did it spark test? As it is now it looks like the beard is almost going to touch the handle. Hmmmm, I look forward to seeing pics as you work on it. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 51 minutes ago, Anachronist58 said: Man you really messed that thing up! Yeah, it's gonna be pretty hard to forge back into the original shape 38 minutes ago, Frosty said: That is or was a boring bar right? How did it spark test? As it is now it looks like the beard is almost going to touch the handle. Hmmmm, I look forward to seeing pics as you work on it. Frosty The Lucky. Hi Frosty! I'm not really familiar with the special names of lathe tools. It was like the longest one in the picture below: It sparked like 1045-1055 plain medium carbon steel. I have a big bunch of old lathe tools and I like them for sheperd's axes and stuff. I had some trouble with the beard going in to far. Now it's okay. Next time I'll remember to leave longer neck between the blade part and the hole. Bests: Gergely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Yes indeedy, those are boring bars they're used to turn inside a part. Say machining the bore of a cannon barrel for example. No, it's not a coincidence the same word can be subject, noun, verb and adverb in the same sentence. Common origin you know. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I have to tell you, Frosty, the meaning 'hole' and 'to make a hole' is still a bit difficult and comes slow for me when I hear/read the word: bore/boring. Also as a Hungarian this thing you mention about words in their unchanged state can be noun, verb and adverb was a real meltdown in the beginning. (Luckily I'm a linguist for my original profession so I've seen much worse ) Bests: Gergely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Evans Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Gergely said: Yeah, it's gonna be pretty hard to forge back into the original shape Hi Frosty! I'm not really familiar with the special names of lathe tools. It was like the longest one in the picture below: It sparked like 1045-1055 plain medium carbon steel. I have a big bunch of old lathe tools and I like them for sheperd's axes and stuff. I had some trouble with the beard going in to far. Now it's okay. Next time I'll remember to leave longer neck between the blade part and the hole. Bests: Gergely I think only the long one is a boring bar. The others are just standard left, facing, parting/grooving, thread cutting(?) and right. With the paint I presume that they are tipped with either HSS or carbide depending on their generation. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Then when we use those same lathe tools in our shaper and get to rename them to add to the confusion.....! looking forward to seeing this axe finished, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I've been in some boring bars in my day, but those take the cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anachronist58 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Not to bore anyone further, but the search term for chipping away at the base composition of the tool steel would ascertained after multiple googoo passes using the following term, as seen on the tool shank: ISO 8 R 20 20 K10 Which refers to the carbide once brazed into the end of the tool, but should lead to the composition of the shank. Unfortunately, I haven't time to be milling about. 4 hours ago, Smoggy said: Then when we use those same lathe tools in our shaper and get to rename them to add to the confusion.....! looking forward to seeing this axe finished, Yet another twist - this turn of a phrase be less boring than first thought! http://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.hahn-kolb.de/ORION-internal-lathe-chisel-carbide-D4973-ISO-8-square-20mm-x-20mm-K10-20-R/17641359.sku/en/US/EUR/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjSsKbQ-8zUAhUQwGMKHZzuDe4QFggNMAE&sig2=sH0xXE5qw_N7KO81jld-7g&usg=AFQjCNG6WA6I-WbZWFIazl-sPFihyQa89A Robert Taylor Edited June 20, 2017 by Anachronist58 Addenda ad Nauseum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Evans Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Smoggy said: Then when we use those same lathe tools in our shaper and get to rename them to add to the confusion.....! looking forward to seeing this axe finished, Could you use those in a shaper? The ones on the old machine I knew, I remember as being much heavier top to bottom (or in shaper terms front to back). I hated the machine...but Angus my fellow student loved it. I was always waiting for it to go bang...to be fair it never did. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroclick Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 So no forging tonight but had a lump hammer that came off its handle a week ago which was fun. So one of the faces had been distorted with use, so thought I would make a broad cross pein. I am pretty happy with it overall. Cheers, Luke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) been busy with 3 weeks of primitive survival camp. I did sell 2 knives there and a hatchet, so that was good. No one has bought the fire steels though, which I though was quite surprising. The crowd wasn't what I was expecting though, most of 'em had never used a knife. I know right. A few day ago, a radio station that I listen to had an event, I won a shirt! that's the first thing I have ever one in a raffle. And also now the radio broadcaster guy wants to come over and have me give him a blacksmithing class, so that's fun. sold some coke, did a little blacksmithing demonstration, they want to take a class. oh, and the survival instructor wants to take a class, and have me give classes through his company, that way he deals with all the liability and everything like that, but I would be the one to profit from it, not that I really care, I would give classes for free, I just enjoy it enough that that is my pay. Bought a work bench off craigslist for $25, which isn't bad, cant make one cheaper than that after all the time and lumber cost unless it was reclaimed wood maybe. Got that put in the shop, It makes a huge difference! also cleaned the shop! Made my dad a skinning knife for fathers day, and also I included some pictures a knife for a kid at the camp. the "A.T.M." is his initials. First time doing a guard like that. Oh, and bought some mesquite 1"x6" for $3 a piece at a garage sale, that's what the last picture of the knife handle is made from Littleblacksmith . Edited June 21, 2017 by littleblacksmith forgot a little and made pics smaller. sorry theres so many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Glad to hear about you, Mark. That's a sturdy piece of workbench - good score! Bests: Gergely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Thank you! by the way, nice axe. You seem to like making the war hammers, and hatchets, etc.. it weights a lot too! Littleblacksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Thanks! Well, it seems I can't deny it... I have a learning route planned in my mind (not too carefully, though) that leads towards the complex shaped African throwing knives's designs. And while developing skills I need to get some incomes, too Bests: Gergely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Sawicki Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 This is what I've done that past 3 days. I made my first and second hammer's, ones a 2.5 pound cross pein made out of 1045. The second one is a 1.5 rounding hammer also made out of 1045. Yesterday I made a nail header and made my first nails. Today I went and checked out a place in Mexico Maine called Rare Wood USA LLC (THIS PLACE IS AWESOME they have over 170 kinds of awesome wood). to buy exotic wood for handles. The wood that I bought (from the top Right down) is Redheart x3 some type of rosewood x3, cocobolo, tulipwood? Wenge x3, amar ebony x2 and tulipwood? On second thought it may be amar ebony x4 and the two on the bottom many be rosewood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Hi, nice work on the hammers! Also those wood samples are beautiful - the redheart is exceptional, it's a pity we don't have those around here. I tried to confirm Mark's theory a bit, so made two crowbill type weapons. Also messed up the heat treat of the bearded axe second time (!) and reshaped a scrapyard axe head. Craft fair in the weekend so better take hurry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 Dylan Sawicki, one thing I will recommend is at the last heats on the hammers, to forge them down to a lower temperature, that way they look cleaner. attached is a picture of a friend of mine hammers. All he makes is tools and hammers, and so he has gotten really good, and of course your first isn't going to be your best, and for a first that's actually not bad at all. If you have a flatter than I would have gone over the face and cheek and peen on the cross pein to make it completely flush and smooth. Now, the picture is of a 9lb sledge. some recent work. I did my first "daswulf" style bottle opener out of a wrench, and I must say that it is the easiest and simplest bottle opener I have ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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