Nobody Special Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 So, you would get upset like my wife when I call her palomino the orange and blonde one, the grey the white one, and the sorrel the red one? Almost as bad as when I call Tennessee Walkers the ones what walk funny and the Fresians the Spinal Tap horses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmutt Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 sorry not a horse person just know he had same horse for the entire show it was one of those tid bits encore talked bout when they had critics intro the shows and my only personal experience with a horse is trying not to get licked while digging things out of a collapsed shed on my aunts place they had a black horse that she said was a butthead and every time i would think i was safe he would sneak up lick the back of my head then turn around and walk off when i got done digging out the stuff she wanted and was safe out side the gate the old lady wouldnt stop laughing the entire time im worried about snakes and wasp and the dang horse deciding wether or not i taste good enough to take a bite of . she also had emu too that had already done its thing all over the ground around the shed not a fun day but i got my revenge later while sitting on the deck going thru the steamer trunk she pulled the tray out of i saw a big old snake and i swear yelled snake as i stood up and walked in the house but they say i dint yellit till i was behind the glass door either way i wasnt dealing with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Special Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 https://www.facebook.com/HISTORY/videos/10153285368216184/ Finally saw the darn thing. Iron and Fire. Trailer's on their FB page, link above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.morse Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I believe this new show is filmed in the Ozarks. That narrows it down to only a couple states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud in PA Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Festus was Marshal Dillon's deputy. As far as Forged in Iron, it's Television, It's for entertainment. If they went to a real smithy to film a days work, without the contrived drama, how many viewers would they attract and hold? Unless you are really into it watching somebody else would become akin to watching grass grow after a while. How about Doc Adams, played by Milburn Stone? At my age, growing up in Jersey right across the river from NYC, I remember the early beginnings of TV. Discussions like this bring back distant memories. As I have been told I'm so old I fart dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankySmith Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Honestly though it's that "contrived" aspect of these types of shows that I just can't stand to watch. TLC and it's sister networks seem to be the worst, I think they all have the same scriptwriter and every word that comes out of people's mouths sounds like carefully scripted nonsense. Real people don't "narrate" like that. I'd prefer more reality, less theater. I understand it doesn't make for popular TV, but don't get me started on "popular" TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Watched the trailer pretty well killed the "willing suspension of disbelief" with the "Blacksmithing is a dying art" as the first line. I felt the second line should be "That's why more folks are doing it nowadays than any time in the last 50 years! Cost of tools is skyrocketing, groups are all over and conferences are well attended...even has it's own sites on the internet..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 I watched the half hour "sneak" preview tonight and I think I'm actually going to like the show. Forget an educational blacksmithing program, this is entertainment. It does however portray some pretty darned good smithing, well did tonight. The only "drama" was in the same line as Duck Dynasty where the pair went searching for some steel cable for an . . . Ah hem Damascus dagger. They were given a $20 bill and were bargaining for enough change to by a BBQ sandwich for lunch. It may have been contrived but it was charmingly likable. I haven't heard or . . . said, less historically accurate things than I heard said tonight. There's still a lot of mythical . . . stuff about blacksmithing and Damascus especially so I won't fault the show on that count. All in all it was an enjoyable half hour. I look forward to the premier with higher hopes for quality than I was expecting. Getting better than I expected is a good thing. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave51B Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 I guess my question is........if I use a round quench tank, does it still have to face due north? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothBore Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Dave51B said: I guess my question is........if I use a round quench tank, does it still have to face due north? Dave Yes, certainly ... and you'd better consider the phase of the moon, as well. Also, never attempt to temper a blade, ... when your dog's in heat, ... or the fish are biting. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Nope, not due north; *magnetic* *north*! Don't they teach folks these things anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Oly, WA Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 But blowing the anvil up into the air?! What's that about? Or maybe I should say "anvil shaped object", in which case, I guess it's alright. 6 hours ago, Dave51B said: I guess my question is........if I use a round quench tank, does it still have to face due north? Dave Just the knife, I guess. I never knew a hand compass was a standard blacksmith tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 6, 2016 Author Share Posted April 6, 2016 Of course you have to have your quench tank facing north, especially if it's round and don't forget to adjust for Coriolis affect and conservation of angular heat. I don't know how they came up with "ringing the anvil" when it's been "shooting the anvil" since the revolution. Maybe I'm not on the writer's need to know list? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Evans Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Frosty said: Of course you have to have your quench tank facing north, especially if it's round and don't forget to adjust for Coriolis affect and conservation of angular heat. I don't know how they came up with "ringing the anvil" when it's been "shooting the anvil" since the revolution. Maybe I'm not on the writer's need to know list? Frosty The Lucky. Ah! So that is why you lot were so revolted by us...we always call it "firing the anvil"... And I always thought it was something to do with representation tax... Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothBore Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 2 hours ago, John in Oly, WA said: But blowing the anvil up into the air?! What's that about? Anvils were traditionally fired on St. Clement's Day, honoring Pope Clement I, the patron saint of blacksmiths and metalworkers. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notownkid Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 My question is do our friends down under have their quench tank facing Mag north as well. Certainly answers why I've had so much trouble over the years. Going to paint a big arrow on the floor of the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave51B Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Uhh Ohh, now I'm really confused....My quench tank is a cast iron pot with a handle........Does the handle have to face a certain way or not? Plus....my dog is in heat and Pee'd in it, I think...Now what? So much to learn......Thanks Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Recorded the preview and just got around to watching it. Yeeaaah...but no. As my daughter said, a little too much scripted hillbilly-ness. Still, he did good work and produced a nice-looking blade. I may give it another chance, but given the low smithing-to-fluff ratio, I may just give it a pass and stick with Forged in Fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted April 6, 2016 Share Posted April 6, 2016 Oh well.. Not so much No safety glasses handkerchief for acid vapor protection The finished blade did not match. My son would never shoot a flintlock without safety glasses. Magnetic north .. What's up with that? Anvil shooters... Check with ABANA Just this old grumps 2c Forge on and make beautiful things Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve2md Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I noticed an awful lot of pitting on that finished blade as well. IMO, totally unacceptable for a blade (unledd it's "as forged") and especially unacceptable for a comission piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 7, 2016 Author Share Posted April 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Steve2md said: I noticed an awful lot of pitting on that finished blade as well. IMO, totally unacceptable for a blade (unledd it's "as forged") and especially unacceptable for a comission piece His acid bath was WAY too concentrated and he just laid in on the bottom of the METAL pan. Do you guys remember talking about being contacted by a production company doing a series for Discovery about a year or more ago? The letter I got said they were looking for a family operation in remote Alaska using traditional methods, tools, etc.? IIRC a number of guys on Iforge got the same message with some regional tweaks. I believe we've been introduced to the family blacksmiths who answered the call. One of our guys has been approached about being in one of the other "reality" shows in Alaska but their needs were so absurdly contrived he ran them off instead of just saying no. Oh yeah, lighten up guys you'll ruin it for me. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Oly, WA Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 22 hours ago, SmoothBore said: Anvils were traditionally fired on St. Clement's Day, honoring Pope Clement I, the patron saint of blacksmiths and metalworkers. . So that's why it's so hard to find good anvils these days, they've all been blown up - no disrespect to St. Clement or anything, but what a waste of an anvil (assuming the "firing" does damage, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 26 minutes ago, John in Oly, WA said: So that's why it's so hard to find good anvils these days, they've all been blown up - no disrespect to St. Clement or anything, but what a waste of an anvil (assuming the "firing" does damage, of course). That's why so many anvils appeal for Clement-cy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis Trez Cole Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Frosty the pan he was using was aluminum Not the thing to put acid in to etch a blade. Never heard if the customer was happy. I would not be happy the way they were testing the knife. We will have to just see where it goes. Maybe some day we can all be TV stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natenaaron Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 On 4/6/2016 at 4:32 PM, Jim Coke said: Magnetic north .. What's up with that? Jim I didn't see the show. What is up with this comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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