bluerooster Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Welding with a torch, the procedure is very much akin to tig, in that, you heat the metal with the torch, and dip filler rod into the puddle. But it's slower, so you have some time to observe what is happening. Like tig you can puddle the weld around and flatten it out. Can't be done with stick, and mig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Oxyacetylene torch, that is. Oxypropane is no good for torch welding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul TIKI Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 OxyPropane is good for high pressure copper applications though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Can you elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul TIKI Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I used to work at a plant that produced Air Conditioner units. We used oxypropane torches to seal all the copper joints and the test was to over pressure the unit before charging it with high pressure air. Any leaks would reveal themselves. I got to the point where I could do about 15 units an hour for everything but the coil itself. That was for the very best guys because you had to be fast and have a light louch. We used special torches that had a y head bent back on itself to heat both sides of the tubing simultaneously. Long sticks of silver based solder was what we used to join them. If you weren't careful you could melt right through the wall of the copper tubing in a flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Okay, so you were silver-soldering the joints rather than torch-welding them with copper as a filler metal. Gotcha. 1 hour ago, Paul TIKI said: special torches that had a y head bent back on itself to heat both sides of the tubing simultaneously. Like one of these beasties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Last night I finished up a few things for an event I am selling at today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Delightful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Your works are amazing and always fun to look at, Das. I would wish you luck today but don't think you need it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I like those a lot Das, I can't think of a better term than delightful. The flame on an oxy prop brazing torch is just moving too fast to weld with, it's more than hot enough but as soon as a puddle starts to form the flame blows the melt out. It CAN be done but you have to hold the torch so far back it makes a way too large HAZ. For heating, brazing and cutting oxy prop is really hard to beat. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Scott, Frosty Thanks. We always need a bit of luck Scott. It is about over. It was local in my hometown Charleroi that isnt as busy as it used to be. The bicycle rim snowman sold to a lady that owns a local pizza shop. Psycho jack snowman sold but I still have the new one, Happy Jack. The little fork reindeer were a hit and sold. I will have to make a bunch more since they were easy and I have a lot of old silverware to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I've seen some cool things done with old flatware, dragon flies from knives, lady bugs and turtles from spoons and all kinds of leggy thingies from forks. I think you've posted quite a few haven't you, Das? Your last deer head has an alien feel for me, I like it a lot, it'd fit right into a sci fi story or RPG. I started keeping my eyes open for flatware a few years before Covid but all of a sudden people wanted almost new prices, especially in 2nd. hand shops. Before we had transfer stations and went directly to the land fill you could find some now and then but no longer, everything goes to a transfer station. Man, I miss the good old days of picking the landfill. <sigh> Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gewoon ik Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Daswulf said: Scott, Frosty Thanks. We always need a bit of luck Scott. It is about over. It was local in my hometown Charleroi that isnt as busy as it used to be. The bicycle rim snowman sold to a lady that owns a local pizza shop. Psycho jack snowman sold but I still have the new one, Happy Jack. The little fork reindeer were a hit and sold. I will have to make a bunch more since they were easy and I have a lot of old silverware to work with. You didn't come over? Thas only 1u30 from Ghent. Or you mean not the charleroi in belgium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 It would be Charleroi in Pennsylvania, United States. I'd gladly stop by were it the closer Charleroi. Frosty, I get it when the price is right. I know what you mean, some second hand places want .50c each. I could actually make the price work if they sell, but much prefer free or dirt cheap. I have enough at the moment that I'm not desperate enough to pay much. I do use butter knives for dragonfly wings and have used utensils in other pieces. I have posted some here. Somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goods Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Worked on the picket some more today: I almost got the first floret done when work called. I turned the fire off, but didn’t take it out: Lesson learned! Well, maybe the next ones will be mor consistent… I could always forge a hungry caterpillar to add this to another arrangement and make it work . Keep it fun, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I like the hungry caterpillar idea but I'm seeing an eye staring out of the punched and drifted eyelet. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBones Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Goods, maybe i missed it, but how did you do the sockets for the middle bar? Christmas fast approaching. Seem to be running out of time but got another book stand made and 2 outdoor sconces. Yes the one sconce needs a bit of tweaking on the basket. Dropped my form tool i was using and it rolled under my toolbox, my back hurts, my feet hurt, i was getting frustrated, a few bad words and i called it a day. Also on todays episode of need a tool, make a tool. Was trying something new today and it was small and finicky. I did not have any way to hold it very well so i made 2 sets of small light duty tongs. Made of 3/8" round and they hold surprisingly well for their size. Top ones are set at 1/4" bottom at 1/8". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Nice work Billy. We all have those days. Sometimes more often than we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBones Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Thanks Das. There comes a time when you just have to stop rather than do more damage. I have been off work since Wed. and have put in a good 35 hours in the shop, so it has been a good weekend. I also forgot till you posted, but i love that bearing snowman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerooster Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Yes, the bearing snowman is fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goods Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Billybones, it’s a one piece 1/2” square bar with the center 4” forged round, with a 1” section on either side of the round left square and the leaves forge welded on there. Beyond the leaves, I twisted it 135degrees on each end which was forge to octagon till the last 3” on each end. No sockets? Keep it fun, David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Thanks Billy and Bluerooster about the bearing snowman. The bearings work well for the look. I have one more started and depending on bearings, I plan to make more in different poses or such. I have some projects started that are still waiting as of years to be brought back out. So taking a break on something is no big deal. No worries, we get back to them when the time is right. Whether it be a day or 7years. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Special Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Nothing much pretty today, but picked up a bit in the forging area today, processed another five-gallon bucket of wild clay for maybe crucibles, added a small cover I made for the tuyere, and drilled and attached the band to one of the anvil blocks. Also adjusted the forge to be more appropriate for charcoal by adding clay (and sand for temper) walls to make it narrower and deeper, sort of like that clay taco that Thijs Van de Mannaker forged a spear in for one of his videos. It still doesn't behave like coal, but fuel consumption slowed down considerably, it re-focused the heat towards the middle beautifully, and with the new screen, I didn't have charcoal get in the tuyere and heat it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLeod Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Love the bearing snowman Das, looks great. I really like outdoor sconces you made Billy, hoping to make something similar for holding a light outside my work shop. It’s pitch dark here at 5pm now, this time of year you really notice where you need lights. I won’t bore you with photos of more fireside sets or wacky lamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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