ThomasPowers Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Me; I would lay it out and blip holes for the bolt heads in the top of the bench---or do so in a sacrificial board to use as a spacer. I might look into replacing the hex head bolts with carriage bolts too. As to the fin---are British Patents open for viewing like old American ones? I'd like to see what they said about it... But that is an extremely neat find indeed! Especially with the catalogue reference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daninghram Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 My guess would be that fin is meant to go in a slot on the bench or stand to hold the vise from side to side in the front, two bolts hold it in the back. Just a guess...cool vise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 That vise is a great find. Another followed me home. While at our BOA meeting a member gifted this sink to my wife for a slack tub. Building a stand for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Will you be making a flipover lid for it to help discourage blade suicides? I've really like the "step on a pedal to open the lid trash cans for quench tubs; but it's hard to find the metal ones anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Never had a cover for my slack tub. Might be a good idea if nothing more than to keep the mice from drowning in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Especially with students I have seen a lot of hot steel accidentally make it into an open slack tank. As we use a lot of A36 nowadays which often should NOT be quench but merely normalized I tend to not have water in my forge. I have also seen a student take a knifeblade that they have worked several hours on, destroy it by quenching it even when I was screaming NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at them. (And yes we had covered that in class but videogames and Hollywood override what actual smiths tell them at times...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasent Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Nice to have mechanic friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melw45 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Jasent Those look brand new. You going to make blades from them? Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtnstream Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 22 hours ago, ThomasPowers said: Will you be making a flipover lid for it to help discourage blade suicides? I've really like the "step on a pedal to open the lid trash cans for quench tubs; but it's hard to find the metal ones anymore. Ha, I agree...put a top on the slack tub. Was working a small vegetable chopper (from a file) and it hopped off my anvil right into the tub. I heard it crack, couldn’t have made that chip shot if I tried. The cracked chopper is now in my overflowing "lessons learned" bucket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Over the last 36 years I have seen some *amazing* "3 cushion billiards" trick shots by high carbon steel seeking it's doom in an open water container. It's not a hard thing to prevent; but I would suggest any lid be easily flipped up with a foot, hammer, pair of tongs, etc. Many smiths are led astray by the historical smithys with the large, often half barrel, slack tubs; but not realizing that they were working real wrought iron with a very low carbon content and so quenching had no effect on it but cooling. We are generally working very different materials nowadays and so blindly following earlier methods with modern materials can be a BAD idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasent Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Melw45 said: Jasent Those look brand new. You going to make blades from them? Mel I think they are brand new. Came from a side by side that was new and got a major suspension upgrade. Idk what I'll do with them yet. If I knew more about what they came from id sell them but they will prob get made into something at some point. I got so much spring steel now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Exactly, it's rather trivial to acquire leaf and coal springs and so having a ton of it on hand may be a waste of space and an annoyance to the spouse/neighbors. I stock enough to handle a bunch of projects and leave the rest at my local scrapyard. (Though I do tend to buy odd sized ones as i find them because stock close to needed size saves a lot of work!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasent Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, ThomasPowers said: Exactly, it's rather trivial to acquire leaf and coal springs and so having a ton of it on hand may be a waste of space and an annoyance to the spouse/neighbors. I stock enough to handle a bunch of projects and leave the rest at my local scrapyard. (Though I do tend to buy odd sized ones as i find them because stock close to needed size saves a lot of work!) Neither of those are my issue. My only issue is the lack of personal time these days to play in the shop! But winter is only 5 months away where I will have tons of free time and no money to spend. I will continue stocking my scrap yard and fuel till then and working (playing) when I get the chance. Haven't paid for a peace of steel yet Winter is coming..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 If you cut those coils up into segments with a circumference of about 8 to 10 inches (good for punches and chisels), they will take up a lot less space. It will also save you time when you get around to straightening them and making them into something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I have run into a few coated/painted springs lately that must have had a zinc coating under the paint so just be cautious about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Daswulf said: I have run into a few coated/painted springs lately that must have had a zinc coating under the paint so just be cautious about that. Even if you don't strip the entire spring, a test spot with a dab of paint stripper will show you what's under the paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasent Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Thanks for the tips fella's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Well it didn't follow me home but is along the fence row at the back of my landlords property: old farm implements not used and probably unusable now but I went out and measured some of it and there is a 14' long and 2 5' long pieces of 2.25" sq stock and 12' of 1.25" sq stock. Now old farm equipment often is medium to high carbon steel. Perhaps I need to talk with my landlord about buying some scrap off him...240 pounds for the big long piece's weight... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel h Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 This followed my wife home, then she gave it to me. Great woman ! It has 5 inch jaws and what looks like a bronze screw box. Any ideas as to the maker? Now I need to get to making a spring and mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave51B Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Lionel......If that woman decides to leave you, let me know....lol Just kidding, great woman and great score. You better make her something real nice. Life is Good Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausfire Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 28 minutes ago, Lionel h said: This followed my wife home, then she gave it to me. Great woman ! It has 5 inch jaws and what looks like a bronze screw box. Any ideas as to the maker? Now I need to get to making a spring and mount. Nice vice! That brass bit would polish up well. We have a lot of these around the place (mostly incomplete ones in the scrap) and I can't ever recall seeing a maker's mark on any of them. And what a thoughtful wife you have! On 19/05/2017 at 5:36 AM, JHCC said: If you cut those coils up into segments with a circumference of about 8 to 10 inches (good for punches and chisels), they will take up a lot less space. It will also save you time when you get around to straightening them and making them into something. Good advice. If you get a lot of them don't pile them all up in a heap. They have a mind of their own and get tangled ... and the one you want is always at the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 17/05/2017 at 2:27 PM, Zeroclick said: There is always strawberry field outside Bridlington. Or Redcar racecourse is usually decent. I didn't know Redcar Racecourse boot sale was still running, it was always one of the better ones......I'll pencil that one in......cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeroclick Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Smoggy said: I didn't know Redcar Racecourse boot sale was still running, it was always one of the better ones......I'll pencil that one in......cheers. Yeh it is a good one there is also a good one at York auction house it is a good one and worth the bit of travel. The one at Bridlington is really good it can take you all day to even get round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ling Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 From my granny's barn, like I said she is moving, so having to go through stuff. old wench, Alamo ironworks San Antonio Texas, started as a blacksmith shop and foundry on the banks of the San Antonio river in 1875, and the company is still in existence. It's purty cool, don't know what to do with though. hahah. Handle looks hand forged, and wrought iron, wrapped eye. Littleblacksmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I know what I'd do with it. Nice find LBS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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