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Sale Saturday at the industrial surplus place. Five bars of S7 and a 1-1/4” round bar in some mystery steel*, plus four pairs of high-heat gloves, all for about $100.

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I think I know what I’ll be selling at Quad-State ‘22….
 

* There’s a dot of yellow paint on one end, so if this follows the color code from the Bureau of Standards (US Department of Commerce), then it’s 1045. I’ll see if a spark test tells me anything. 

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At the scrapyard I got a set of Levi 501's in mint condition a 2'x2'x5/8" granite "tile" and some misc nuts and bolts and a length of 1.25" sq drilling rod to make some stake anvils with.

Scrapyard doesn't charge me for stuff that's not metal and the wrecked cars can have a lot of odd stuff in them---I usually check them out for tools; gotta fill a tool box for each of the 8 grandkids and I expect most will lose a lot of their first set...

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I went to our blacksmith club meeting yesterday and this followed me home. It's stamped 211#, but my two scales each weighed it at 230#. It has 85-90% rebound across the face. I can see it's made in Sweden, but if anyone knows who the maker was I'd appreciate the info. Thanks.

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It bums me out to see the sides of anvils beat up like that but oh well. I can't ID it specifically but it looks to follow the typical Soderfors pattern for a London Pattern anvil. 85-90% rebound is in the ball park as well. 

Her condition looks nearly pristine which isn't unusual for a Soderfors that hasn't been abused with too many direct hammer strikes to the edges. A little edge chipping is a hallmark of a Soderfors.

There are other anvil makers in Sweden but many were cast by the Soderfors foundry from the same steel.

I think there's enough logo left to maybe ID if someone here has the list. I don't, <sigh>

Whatever it is specifically prepare to be spoiled for other brands. . . Forever.

And if you haven't noticed I AM a fan of Soderfors anvils, I have a 125lb. Sorceress #5 and it out performs my 200lb. Trenton by a mile. Congratulations, your great grandkids will have heard the stories about you when your grandkids hand it down to them.

Frosty The Lucky.

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Thanks Frosty and TW, I’ve been searching the web all morning and I’m thinking Soderfors also. Frosty, I’ve read about your love of them so I’m going to put it to the test as soon as I have time to build my tripod stand for it. I definitely noticed the ring when I dropped a ball bearing on it, much more than my Mouse Hole. The edges aren’t chipped, someone used it while cutting with a torch and gouged it in a few places, but not enough to complain, especially when I got it for $500

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On 11/8/2021 at 8:59 PM, M.J.Lampert said:

picked up a cheap cold chisel/punch set and 2 cheap files(the most expensive was $7) for jobs I don't want to waste a good file like testing hardness of knives etc.IMG_0206.thumb.JPG.eabdb5e25609271f07909186ad7e4774.JPG

M.J.Lampert

What do you guys consider “good files”? What brand I mean…I have a cheap Amazon set and they’re ok but I’ll need to upgrade some time soon. 

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Well my "good" files tend to be brands not made for decades; but their old ones still are "sharp" if they have been correctly kept.  I like the *old* black diamonds---before Nicholson was stamped on the other side, 1.2% C and when you wear them out they are great for juicing up a billet!

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yes I agree if you can get black diamonds of or Nicholson for your work that's the way to go these where just cheap half decent files that i can abuse and not care unlike the ones that used to belong to my great grandfatherIMG_0207.thumb.JPG.c0850a6a0fb3842176643962235d4ef2.JPG my mother found these gloves and got them for me as a joke

IMG_0210.thumb.JPG.f406f03e9fb4994e16c9f3aec79d5765.JPG also me and my father got this cheap press for our shop and modified it to be air powered(his 50 ton is at a different location ) more on this in what did you do in the shop

M.J.Lampert

 

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I recently bought an old Hase file, thinking it was a good one but it is already dulling when I file spring steel, I do make sure to remove scale first, which makes your files last much longer. I am considering buying a completely new set of Pferd files as soon as I have an annealing set up.

~Jobtiel

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On 11/17/2021 at 4:48 AM, Randy Griffin said:

When buying Nicholson, make sure they are made in USA. You can still find NOS (new old stock) sometimes. Bahco is another good brand.

What about the MADE IN CANADA Nicholson I use a have a set and they are excellent files to use

M.J.Lampert

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Made my first visit to a scrap yard today. My first visit since I started smithing and actually somewhat know what I’m looking at anyway. I’ve decided I’m going with the log splitter to forge press build so that’s why I went. Didn’t find anything for that but I found a couple pieces of plate, a hitch with two different sizes that I can use for forming and then some stuff that I’m pretty sure should be able to be hardened. Coil spring, some kind of blade for something not sure what and then another blade or cutting tooth of some sort. No idea what it is but after looking at it I’m thinking the mass in the middle may be mild steel and the worn parts that were welded is the good stuff and there’s not much left. Anyone know what these are? Anyway I had a bunch of brake rotors so they took those off the cost so I got this stuff for only 10 bucks. They said they’ve been crazy been and they’re usually much more organized and sorted. I literally was faced with a mountain and it wasn’t safe to go in very deep. I mentioned why I was there and one guy with many more face piercings than I could count said they had dumped “a bunch of small anvils” over the back of the pile earlier in the day - he said he was serious but I’m hoping he was just messing with me because that made me want to cry haha. Fun place though. I’m going to stop by maybe once a week to keep trying for the press parts. Also found this cool old manual drill. Didn’t take it but I thought it was interesting. 
 


 

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The piece with the sq/round holes looks to be grader blade: very tough and abrasion resistant and a royal pain to grind on.  I use my chunks for improvised hardy tooling holders to go with improvised anvils with no hardy hole.

Have you tried bringing doughnuts to them?  Getting them to save stuff they think you might like off to the side is well worth the odd dozen doughnuts!

I've been going to my local scrapyard so long they do things like tell me "We're going to breakfast; we can weigh you out when we get back."  Or the time they saved 6 99# cast iron balls for me---large ball stakes for armouring!

I've asked them to pull stuff from the pile for me that I couldn't get safely too.

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Forgot to add the pics of this other huge stuff that I thought was pretty cool. One chain looks considerably older but I don’t think it’s wrought iron. There were also a bunch of these huge cone typish things that I think are what the chains slide against on a ship when going in and out of the water. Kind of like a giant domed anvil though lol. When I go back I’m going to see if I can find any single links that would be good for shaping bowls shovels etc. 

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