ThomasPowers Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 #30 spending more time facing a screen than an anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod34 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Mod note: Jon Kerr's reply to the above comment has been split into its own thread for further discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForgingH Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Mistake #31 not following all of the above. I just wish I read the stuff on this site a few months ago.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 We all tend to want to jump in and then go "read the manual" when we run into problems. It can be amazing how much faster/easier/less painful things go if we reverse that process... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I was constantly telling my guy's to RTFM (Read The Field Manual) or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Got my new insulin pump today; only cost twice as much as my pickup did. I'm reading the manual over the weekend to be ready for training on it Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 On 12/18/2018 at 7:32 PM, Marc1 said: Underestimate the space required and the noise and smoke pollution you will invariably create ... and ... overestimate the support from friends and family. Mate!!!! this is the most accurate mistake description EVER!!! I just started blacksmithing 1 month ago and have only made 10 simple nails so far to 'nail' some basic techniques lol but every single friend and family member i have offers me ZERO support and all of them discourage me from pursuing this craft and thats how i found this community Happy forging Cinder (Dan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hoover Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I am a newbie. So wet behind the ears I have tadpoles growing in the pond. Biggest mistake I am seeing? Trying to keep up with the smiths. Seriously. Do NOT expect to do something in the same number of heats that the experienced smiths do. Not even close. They may be able to make that bottle opener in four heats or less, (saw that and just said not even.). So... be ready to realize that they do it in four or five, ,you are probably going to need two to three times as many. This is a marathon, not a sprint. So take your time and follow all the excellent tips in this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinder Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Excellent point Ben To quote Denzel Washington in The Equalizer: 'Progression not perfection' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBones Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 May i offer 2. 1) Do not stare into the forge, you will damage your eyes. 2) Put down the hammer and pick up a broom. In other words clean up every once in a while. Don't need clutter under your feet. Your mama dont work in your shop, aint nobody gonna pick up after you, but you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxwellB Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, BillyBones said: Put down the hammer and pick up a broom. In other words clean up every once in a while. Don't need clutter under your feet. This is true in every facet of life, but so much more in crafting. I used to work in a bakery, and it was extremely easy to collect bowls, spatulas, spoons, piping bags and tips, sheet trays, cookie cutters, etc. all on that shelf under the table. Of course when you need something it's got a 3/4" thick buttercream stucco in it and it just breaks the rhythm you develop. You know what they say: An organized workspace is an organized mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 They also say organized people are too lazy to look for things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Another "They" say, "An organized work space is the sign of a lack of imagination." Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannon Cocker Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Amen Frosty and Irondragon Forge and Clay !!!!!!! I try to convince my wife of these truths but she doesn't buy it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 No matter how many times I sweep my dirt shop floor it's still dusty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I think the title of this thread should be modified to a more honest one: " Mistakes I make myself all the time and wish you can learn to avoid" And a few quotes to go with that thought "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time" "There are lots of people who mistake their imagination for their memory." and there is nothing wasted in the next one ... Why Older People Have Always Trashed Young People: It’s partly fear, partly self-flattery, and partly delusion, and it’s been happening for thousands of years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Mistake # 32 using too much oil on your coals. Makes a huge black cloud and then having to give a demonstration on forge welding because the cops and fire department had nothing better to do... Awwwwwkward. (yes learning is from mistakes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Who uses oil on your coal and WHY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Sly said: Mistake # 32 using too much oil on your coals. If you're talking about putting oil or ANY accelerant on burning coals it's a very dangerous mistake. Visualize engulfed in a fireball, dropping the oil can and becoming one with the fire that burns down the: shop, home, Chicago, kind of mistake. Yeah I know it's a stretch but legend has it Mrs. Leary's cow kicked over a kerosene lantern and started the Chicago fire. If you watch the home shot video crazy antics show you see people squirting charcoal lighter fluid in a BBQ that isn't hot enough, the guy pouring gas on a burn pile to speed it up, etc. see the fireball and the fool dancing around, sometimes on fire. Throwing any flammable liquid on any flame is a very B-A-D idea. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Not exactly that dramatic. I use the oil primarily to kick up the flames before adding fresh coals to the top, helps suck the oxygen from underneath as well. in this case I tried to add coals add a little oil add coals and got fifteen minutes of smoke and no so called fireball, even then iv never had anything that dramatic like you describe happen in my forging experience... ever. Its basically like... cooking oil or fat dripping off the meat onto the coals only the flame is sustained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I've always considered such flames to be cooler than the ones generated from the primary fuel. Save on your face. Energy going into vapourization and the burn taking place above the working zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Sounds like poor fire management to me. Don't wait till the fire is too small to add coal, rake it in and pack it around the fire before you need it so it can coke up in advance. It shouldn't take 15 minutes for coal added to a fire to get going. I don't need that much time to get a fresh fire ready to work and I'm not primarily a coal forge guy. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 the forge is also just a channel made from two very thick brick walls about 6 inches apart from each other and 16 inches deep, maybe two feet wide. It gets about 2900 degrees internally hot enough to liquidize iron but it does require a few tricks in managing the stack, being it gets piled higher then what will light. Pro is charcoal lasts forever and I can forge 8 hours on 20lbs with a garenteed reducing flame (which means 10$ for a day, vaguely cheaper then propane) downside is it doesnt reheat the coals as fast and traps alot of ash, thus the added oil for penetrating flames when I add the stack I turn the air up get it all lit and pack it back down then tamp the air. Good for welding and forging, but it's also needy on getting conditions just right. Problem was the oil on dry coals just fumes and doesnt light, it took a good 15 minutes to smoke out before lighting because it was choked. As for gas ignition fluids... I watched some of those videos for kicks and no thank you. Still #32 oil on dry charcoal fumes and does not work the way you would think it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masonred Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I was recently having trouble keeping a fire going. As a rookie I assumed it was poor fire building or management nope the, the tyre had clogged up with small pieces and dust. Simple solution to knock out but caused frustration for several attempts. A little oil on newspaper will help start a fire, started doing this for charcoal in a chimney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris J Dixon Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 11:20 PM, Glenn said: Use the back of your hand to sense if something is hot. Much more sensitive than the front of the hand that does all the work. Not only this but the instance of heat to the fingertips causes the brain to clinch and pull the hand away. If the piece sticks or you actually "succeed" in grabbing it, you're in for a bad burn not just on the fingertips. The back of the hand pulls away with no clinch. These are all such great pieces of information. Thanks guys and gals!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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