ThomasPowers Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Catastrophism, of course! Are you ready for the next one? Which side of the mountains are you on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 No, I'm not ready for the next one... if it's going to get me, it's going to get me. I just hope it's quick! We may go down into the basement and hope for the best though. I guess around here it's called a "crawl space"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 The underside of the mountains might do it if the pantry is stocked for a couple generations. Be sure to have lots of seed. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Whats worse? East of the Rockys or west? Cataclysmic is some serious stuff. Er eh catophisms or catastrophisms. I dunno, it all sounds bad. Best I can do is worry about and prepare for food shortages... and the next honey do list. She wants a heated pool. God help me, I suggested a tub with a fire built under it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Actually, a couple of my friends have wood heated hot tubs. One is a fancy banded wooden one (sort of like a big barrel or pickle tub) with a submersible wood stove. The other is just an 8' diameter galvanized stock tank up on rocks with a fire built under it and pavers in the bottom to avoid hot spots. Both work pretty well. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, Daswulf said: Whats worse? East of the Rockys or west? Depends on where it strikes. If you're playing the odds which is the ONLY game, I'd say between mountain ranges, the middle of the plains. Odds are it'll be a water strike so waves perhaps a couple miles high will hit the coasts with gradually smaller rebound waves. Then there are the global fires, first from the flash of the impact and second from super heated debris both directly from impact and debris thrown out of the atmosphere reentering all around the globe. The great plains are inland between a couple mountain ranges to shield from ocean waves, odds being against another gulf strike. And there aren't a lot of forests to make for really HOT fire storms. You could shelter in the plains in Canada but too far north puts you into a harsher and more prolonged " asteroid winter". Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Bullet Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 So which is more likely? Pacific strike? Atlantic strike? Or Yellowstone super eruption? Car or industrial accident? Terminal disease? Old age? When we quit cranking, the world stops turning, from our point of view at least. That's why the best "prep" isn't physical, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 With about 70 percent of the earth's surface being covered with salt water a sea strike is most likely; however for an individual human those other "killers" are MUCH more likely---(Car or industrial accident, Terminal disease, Old age,) nobody is getting out of this life alive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 We're all circling the drain so getting yourself straight for the inevitable is in your best interests. The question was re. asteroid impact. A Yellowstone super volcano caldera eruption is in the same class. A definite civilization reset event and Yellowstone is close or overdue for a super eruption but it's not a set in stone interval. The interval for ELE, asteroid/comet strikes runs in the millions of years so we're maybe overdue for one of those too. For the short term we (Earth) get hit by non-manmade space junk constantly, IIRC thousands of tons a day. In the last few years there have been strikes that have not only done damage to structures and natural features say laying down forests and better still caught on dash-cams. If you get the chance check out "Meteor Crater." It's WAY cool if a bit scary to think about it being the result of a guesstimated nickel iron impacter around 100' in diameter. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Or look at where the Sudbury Nickel mines in Canada got their nickel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Or the Iridium deposits in Africa. There are lots of the platinum group in the Sudbury ore too. There's a big deposit in Russia too I believe. Of course everything on and in Earth is meteoric in origin. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 I think I'll start in on worrying about another Theia, and the giant-impact hypothesis, tomorrow. I'm too tired to stress on it to-night..... Two moons would be cool though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Does it count as a meteorite if it arrived before there was an "earth"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 If it hit another one of the conglomorating mass. Yes. If it missed it was a meteoRite on by. Now you did it, you made me think about it. How could it be a meteor or meteorite without air. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Lol, thanks y’all, you got me curious about the difference between meteors, meteorites so I looked it up and before I knew it I was reading about asteroids, an comets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 Don't forget about the giant ice volcanos they discovered on Pluto! They spew slush the consistency of toothpaste..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Ice volcanos? Now you got me wondering about a show down between an ice volcano vs a lava volcano! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Yep... just learned something new myself and we wonder about Martians. https://www.wdsu.com/article/pluto-giant-ice-volcanoes-hint-possibility-life/39576892 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Then you guys are going to love Enceladus and Mimus, two of Saturn's 82+ moons. Let's not forget Jupiter, Europa, Ganymede and Callisto, 3 of 4 Galilean moons are strongly believed to have liquid water oceans. Some of the current opinion is a definite salt water ocean on/in? Ganymede. Data on the ocean moons of the solar system is always updating, lots of astronomers and potential space explorers are REALLY interested. Enjoy. Don't worry, no rabbit holes here, honest I'm sure you'll get your sleep. . . eventually. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Shoot I used to live near a couple of Maar when I was down on the border Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Hmmmm. That makes me wonder if a deeper layer of liquid were forced up and came in contact with say liquid methane or ethane it would maybe form a maar. Titan is believed to be layered, solid, liquid, solid, etc. with liquid water pretty deep. I'll have to think of a way to work that into a Traveller session if I can get a group interested enough to play. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 hours ago, Irondragon ForgeClay Works said: Yep... just learned something new myself and we wonder about Martians. Now I wonder about Plutonians... I learned what a maar is. The largest one in the world is Devil Mountain Lake in, you guessed it....... Alaska! You guys have it all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 No need to wonder Scott, Plutonians are really Far out Man. Ah come on we don't have it all, just the largest and most. We can't help being more than twice the size of the next largest state. I didn't know about the Devil Mountain Lakes till just now. Cool beans! I wonder if magma hitting permafrost meant it built up more pressure before it blew? The largest Maar is one of many in the area, the topo map looks like it was decorated with roundish lakes. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 3:06 PM, Frosty said: No need to wonder Scott, Plutonians are really Far out Man. I wonder where Voyager 1 is these days. Plutonians could be here pretty fast in their ice breaker submarine craft I bet, IF they wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I had to look that one up, Wiki has a good write up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_1 Short answer is: Voyager 1 has been operating for 44 years, 7 months and 9 days as of April 14, 2022 UTC and is At a distance of 155.8 AU (23.307 billion km; 14.483 billion mi) from Earth as of January 21, 2022,[3] Dad spun the rocket bells for the attitude thrusters on both Voyagers and several other probes. It gives me a cool feeling when I think he has parts he made on all the inner planets, in Jupiter and Saturn's atmospheres and some have left the Solar system. That always gives me a little rush. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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