Daswulf Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Just to show you what I use. It's a steel plate with holes drilled in it. I dont think it would be good to tack weld to your cast fire pot but I tack weld it to my brake rotor fire pot. When it wears out I can simply cut the 4 tack welds and replace it. It could easily (depending on your skills) be fabricated to fit in the hole with a lip holding it in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Sorry I have been remiss in visiting you, and for that mater keeping up with this thread. Dad had had a heart attack about 3 months ago fallowed buy a stroke a month later. Been a bit hectic around here sense. as mentioned the gilet gray was to high, an inch or two would be sufficient and the lip underneath as you now know catches the slag so you can’t fish it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Charles, I'm sorry to hear about your Dad. My own father had multiple issues with heart attacks and strokes, so it is with great sympathy that I wish you and him the very best. 2 hours ago, Charles R. Stevens said: gilet gray "bullet grate"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Gandalf's younger brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Gandalf was "the Grey", not "the Gray". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 High elvish spelling vs Low elves! Morgoth never made a fuss about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Another example of the US and UK being two countries separated by a common language. Did warriors in Middle Earth wear "armour" or "armor?" "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 6 hours ago, JHCC said: think anvil meant the CF clinker breaker Thanks,JHCC, that's what I meant. I can't put their addy down. Check Centaur Forge. I'm not a fan of a metal grate. My first home built forge used one. I made the grate out of 1/4" welding rod for cast. When I learned of and used a clinker ball/breaker it made a major difference in my work. From keeping a clean fire without having to break it down to air distribution in the firepot. They are inexpensive and not that hard to add to a home built firepot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Charles: I'm holding your Father, Family and friend in my prayers. Be well Brother, we're pulling for you. Frosty The Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Charles, Sorry about your recent life developments. i hope that your father is on the mend and that you are in better form. Good wishes to you and all the family. SLAG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Tho spelling is not my strong suit, as an avid pre Boston method reader I prefer the Oxford English for spelling thank you. yes “Bullet Grate” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, anvil said: When I learned of and used a clinker ball/breaker it made a major difference in my work. For a bottom-blast firepot, definitely. Not necessary for a side-blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Ball (clinker) breaker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 I thought the Boston School was all about "level measures"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donal Harris Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 Sorry to hear about your Dad, Charles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Charles R. Stevens said: Ball (clinker) breaker... You're torturing me on purpose aren't you, Charles. I've been resisting this straight line since it came up originally. That is NOT easy for me on a good day but it keeps showing up! I'm going out and run the string trimmer so I don't get myself moderated for cause. Frosty The Lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 He who turns and runs away… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 No the string trimmer turns---and rapidly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donal Harris Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 I see Charles has met my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Any woman that will putt up with the likes of us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Hope things get better for you Charles. Although I've never actually met you I count you as a friend and I hate to see friends having a hard time. If there's anything I can do just let me know. Pnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 Just having pearls who care is a great help, Pnut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anvil Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:09 PM, JHCC said: Not necessary for a side-blast Back on topic. I think you are right. To be clear, I've never used a side blast, but I've burnt a lot of coke. No matter what direction the air comes from, it basically does 3 thing. It produces heat and heat rises. It makes clinker and ash, which falls down. Thats it. The heat heats our work and we must remove the clinker and ash. Then there's air and we need to remove the O2 from it to have a reducing fire. Simple stuff for simple blacksmiths. I'm not a fan of a grate. With a grate, slots or holes, the air basically rises straight up. With a sideblast, the air moves horizontal broken up via coke. We have far less control of this, so less control over our fire,,, possibly. A clinker ball due to its shape channels the air twards the sloping sides, and up. This creates a fireball that burns from the outside in giving us a large controllable fireball. A clinker ball also allows us to remove all clinker and ash without breaking down our fire in able to do this. A flick of the handle, and done. With a grate, to remove the fines and ash, you must break down your fire and shovel it out. A side draft has a depression below the air inlet that clinker and ash can fall into. Of course you can remove the clinker ring, but what about the rest? \ Just my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Well with a well designed side blast you have as much control over the fire as with a side blast but you do not have the slag directly over the draft sorce. As to removing the slag, kill the air, lift the fire with your shovel and hook the slag with your poker and pull it out. Easy enugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Charles R. Stevens said: with a well designed side blast you have as much control over the fire as with a side blast As much control as a bottom-blast, but Yes. In this context, control has more to do with the controlling the speed and volume of the air supply than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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