ThomasPowers Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Might be easier to do a spark test---only need to go a little into in and a battery powered grinder will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Pat Masterson said: There were also a bunch of these huge cone typish things that I think are what the chains slide against on a ship when going in and out of the water. I think the word you want is “bollard”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I was thinking of rollers along the sides of the hawsepipe from the description. For a picture of anchor chain smiths circa 1900: https://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/pG66khGiQqqWz2aoxA9lCg (It's enough to give an OSHA inspector palpitations!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I believe that a bollard can be mounted either on a wharf: Or on the deck of a ship (here as a double set, next to the hawsehole): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 But look at the Double Cone rollers used for the sides of some hawsepipes. Of course pipe rollers also use the double cone. For a video of anchor chain being forged: (Note how something can be hand forged and factory made!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I know what you mean, but the “domed top” leads me to think bollard is more likely. Of course, a picture would settle the question quickly enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Haven't found a Bollard out here yet; but I did find a Mooring cleat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Masterson Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Yes. Bollards is what they were lol. If it is wrought and I get it for just regular scrap price would I be able to sell it for some kind of profit? I don’t really have any interest in forging wrought myself and even if I did that chain is way too big for my set up. Also how do sparks from wrought compare to mild steel? Thomas they had a whole bunch of those too. Also huge. I thought I got pictures of all that stuff but I guess I was a bit preoccupied with everything I was seeing lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Steel is generally brighter and more sparkly. For more details, take a look at one of the threads about spark testing. Chunks of wrought might be nice trading or tailgating stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Masterson Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Thanks JHCC. I usually only get to forge on the weekends so Friday nights I literally have trouble getting to sleep bc I can’t wait to get up and get the forge going - kind of like a little kid the night before Christmas lol. I was just tinkering in the garage though looking at this bar of h13 I got. Probably going to try something with it tomorrow but once I set it down next to my little mild steel collection I realized it’s still almost perfectly “chrome” practically no oxidation or rust at all. I forge outside so I don’t think it would matter anyway but I was just curious does this stuff give off any kind of nasty fumes when forging? Like when you weld something that’s chrome plated it gives off some toxic stuff. I know h13 isn’t chrome plated but just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Bollards are extremely unlikely to be made from wrought iron; though the sparks for WI and CI can be similar. Even if it were made from WI, cutting it down in usable size chunks would take a whole lot of time and consumables. I think you would be in the negative profit zone quick---there is not really that large a market for WI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I think Pat was thinking about the chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad J. Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 My wood shop finally followed me home today. It's been up at the family cabin since my Dad passed and left it to me. Only thing he left to a specific person in his will. I finally had space for both table saws, (one was mine), drill press, 14 inch band saw, various handheld power tools, a plethora of wrenches and sockets, 2 router tables, enough pipe clamps to come a camel, and other various odds and ends. Kinda makes it a bigger priority to get a wall up between the smithy and the woods working areas now. Also shelving and a few work benches are a must. Really glad the price of wood has come down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Masterson Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 LOL yes the chains - if I go after one of those bollards you’ll never hear from me again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.J.Lampert Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 got the adaptor from internal propane threads (100#er) to external threads (my forge) so now with all full i can have 150# of propane in the shop that's usable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Masterson Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Delivery from an online order. I’m always surprised how sharp they leave hammers. Need a lot of dressing. This is going to be my go to hammer though. Are these plastic rubbery things at the bottom and under the head supposed to stay on? Trying out one of these Kevlar gloves. I’ve heard good things. And I got some some brass pin stock. Also received the 3 inch tubing I’ll use to hold the dies for the log splitter forge press which is on the way also. Excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Yes on the red rubber parts. They pad those sections and keep them from splintering. Pat M. - I doubt the chain is wrought from your pictures. The clevis would be a good item to grab, if you can use them that large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 It is up to the smith to dress a hammer how They see fit. Often times on smith made hammers they dress them to how They prefer. You either go with it or carefully dress it to your liking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Pat: Dress your hammer gradually, don't try to make it "right" to start with, it will take you time and use to learn what YOU need. Begin with rounding the edges slightly so they don't make sharp dents if you strike with the hammer a little out of parallel with the work or anvil face. Same for the pein, round the ends of the pein so it doesn't leave sharp dents. Use it for a while and adjust as necessary. For myself I like the flat face to have a SLIGHT crown and the pein to be slightly curved like an axe edge but much more shallow. Nice hammer, use it in good health. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazer Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Mail call! Looking forward to this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Honestly for general forging I like the pein side to be rounded like a US nickel or quarter. Around those radius. There are uses to have a sharper pein. All depends on what you are doing and need it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 A sharper peen is good for texturing leaves and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad J. Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 A friend dropped off a 100 pound propane tank. It's older and needs to be tested before I fill it but if it fails I have a future long tempering oven or extra long propane forge body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Nice score Chad J.! I got a couple of goodies for my birthday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donal Harris Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Actually came in a couple of days ago, but who’s counting. Two pairs of pickup tongs from on line, 1” and 1 1/2”. They were packaged along with some fire starting material at no extra charge. The 1” seems to be good. The 1 1/2” jaw tips look to be a little off. Haven’t been able to use them yet, but they are lightweight and springy. Shipping was a little slow, but that is outside of their control. What is in their control is response to emails. They did not respond to the three I sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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