Pancho07 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 As I've moved away from smithing and more into gear making I got a request that ought to get me back into the forge. I was asked to make at least 1 set of spurs. I talked to a former gear maker at a ranch rodeo tonight and he said to use 4140 for bands and shanks, he however never really got into the spur making and has been "out" of business for a few years. Are there any gear makers here and what steel do they use? What do I need to know before I dive in this winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Why would you need a gear maker to make spurs? A site search for the word *spurs* said FOUND 212 RESULTS. Did those search results help answer your question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc1 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 To be honest after reading your post Glenn I did a search and got two hits. Pancho post and yours. Sure, then I realised I had to do a proper search of the whole forum using the hidden pull down menu ... Silly me. You have to admit though it is a rather easy mistake to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Yes, been there, done that, and knew there was more information that was not being displayed. When doing a search back up your results by typing into your browser, search spurs at iforgeiron.com and you get About 11,900 results. I can read 212, where as reading 11,900 would take a bit longer. Both are useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 looking in fernier and horse stuff would have found more than in just general smithing also, I will relocate this post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancho07 Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 Sorry I didn't use the search, I've never had much luck with them on this or any forum so I usually don't bother. I also forget that this farriers section is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Turley Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I've made Mexican style spurs for a school traveling exhibit in New Mexico. They didn't want the real spurs go around the state in a museum truck, as they might be stolen. A good book on spur making is "How to make Bits and Spurs" by Robert M. Hall, 1985. He says that four metals are used: aluminum; monel; stainless steel; and just plain iron. However, just plain iron, ie., wrought iron, the material, is no longer manufactured. Hall probably means mild steel, having a carbon content of about 20/100ths of 1%. Today, you can also purchase a misnamed "mild steel" called A36 by the steel suppliers, an American Society for Testing Materials number. Carbon content is normally kept below 0.27% and the steel has an addition of manganese. 4140 is a good, strong steel, but it is not necessary for spur making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 @Frank Turley, was true wrought iron ever used? If so, @Pancho07, I've got a lot of bits of 1/4" x 1-1/4" WI strap that might be good, and I'd be happy to sell or trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 JHCC, may I point out that spurs have been around for over 1000 years and mild steel for a bit over 150 years and so true wrought iron was used to make them is a given. Some of the medieval and renaissance spurs, prick and rowell, look rather excessive until you realize they were designed to work through horse barding. My favorite old pair were made for a king of France and the large rowell's were piercework fleur de lis. Practical Blacksmithing, Richardson, published in 1889, 1890, 1891; has discussions of how the "new" steel should be worked and welded and so I would consider it very likely that in the heyday of the cowboy wrought iron was not only used for bits, but spurs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 JHCC, may I point out that spurs have been around for over 1000 years and mild steel for a bit over 150 years and so true wrought iron was used to make them is a given. Duh. Sorry; coffee hadn't kicked in yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 When you want to search Iforge, use Google or your favorite search engine, NOT the one provided by the Iforge OS, that one sucks. Just add "Iforgeiron" on the end of your search terms and let Google or whoever search Iforge. That little bit is just part of living in Iforgespace, no biggy just one of the idiosyncrasies. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 I keep hoping that each new forum software upgrade will result in a decent search function. So far, I hope in vain.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancho07 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Well these are a long ways from perfect but here’s the first set that I finally got done yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I love um. Super job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancho07 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Thanks Tubal, I’m pretty pleased as far as a first attempt goes. Here’s hoping the guy they’re made for loves them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 just in time for Christmas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancho07 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, ThomasPowers said: just in time for Christmas! Yessir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Beautiful spurs, Pancho. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Geist Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Good job, I like them George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranchmanben Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Those look great! Did you build everything yourself? I started on a set of spurs to give to the lady for Christmas and all was going well until I forgot to temper one of the rowels after I hardened it. Look like I’ll get them done just in time for Valentine’s Day. Here’s the desired result, although not finished and the other one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancho07 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 Thanks George. 42 minutes ago, Ranchmanben said: Those look great! Did you build everything yourself? I started on a set of spurs to give to the lady for Christmas and all was going well until I forgot to temper one of the rowels after I hardened it. Look like I’ll get them done just in time for Valentine’s Day. Here’s the desired result, although not finished and the other one Kinda sorta not really. I bought all of the pieces from a water jet company. I made the rowels but figured for the first couple sets I could cheat alittle bit. I did bend the bands in the forge. Just used 10 gauge mild for the rowels, if they wear out too soon we’ll try something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Have you seen the rowels made from the star grinding wheel dressers? Worn ones are just about right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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