Frank Turley

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About Frank Turley

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  • Birthday 12/10/1935

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    Santa Fe, New Mexico
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    American Indian dancing/singing
    Cowboy culture and horsemanship
    Traditional Hispanic ironwork, esp, hardware
    tai chi chuan and chi kung


  • Location
    Santa Fe, NM
  • Interests
    Cowboys and Indians
  • Occupation
    instructor blacksmithing

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  1. You guessed it, another tong material question!

    I've made lots of farrier's tongs for sale. I used A36 which is sometimes named "mild steel." None of the tongs were returned, and the reins all had spring. Some had forge welded reins, some didn't. A more respectable steel should be selected if making large industrial tongs, for example 4140 or 1080, and with no forge welded reins. A tenet in blacksmithing is to NOT let your tong jaws get an incandescent heat. The only exception I can think of is to heat the tong jaws if they are to grab tool steel to be quenched, thereby not withdrawing any heat from the tool steel.
  2. Fuel in medieval times

    Charcoal was made in large amounts for the Iron Furnaces by carefully making a circular mound of wood, The method is described in the book, "Frontier Iron." The workers were called colliers.
  3. "soft" hammer?

    Dogwood is a good mallet head; no flash and it lasts a long time. Give this a try. squeeze the bent twist in the vise keeping the work corner to corner facing the vise jaws, the untwisted portion that you're holding. Give it a turn and squeeze again. The twist is wider than the parent stock, because corner to corner measures more than flat to flat.
  4. Hoof picks

    I've made a few and taper the business end down to about 1/8" D on the end, and I make the end hemispherical. If the horse should move suddenly, the is little chance of cutting, scraping of gouging.
  5. Can you tell

    Given that a person has decent physical and mental health, that person can learn many procedures and become good with time and practice. Geist brings up the subject of passion, which might also be termed "desire." I couldn't see desire in 10 minutes. Perhaps someone else could.
  6. Historical post/leg vice question

    I started forging in the early 1960's, and my mentors all said, "leg vise." I think 8" jaws were considered max by most manufacturers. I'm fairly certain that some of the boxes and screws were cast in the U.S., thinking of Columbian and Iron City. They probably did not use gray cast iron, but rather something like semi-steel. I doubt that the jaws and bodies were ever cast. Good info is on by clicking in the drop down menu 'FAQS' getting the alphabet and tuning in V for vises.
  7. Two newbie questions

    It would make a good claw hammer for carpentry, but you might heat treat the head and claw separately. leaving the eye normalized. The face of a 1045 forging hammer gets a "hard temper" of straw or dark straw. It will not get harder in use.
  8. Help wth upsetting

    I was at a Francis Whitaker workshop once, and a guy said that when he started to collar his scrollwork, there wasn't enough room (daylight) to slip the collars on. Francis said, "Then your design is wrong." Now about this coil spring upset, is your design wrong from the git-go? Can't you use mild steel so you can quench without worrying about hardening? Something I heard a few years ago, "Never more than three." They were referring to the heat length being never more than three times the thickness or diameter of the stock you're upsetting.
  9. Somebody told me this years ago. "Starting a business without capital is kind of like being the Butterscotch Man. You have to get warm in order to run, but you have to run in order to get warm." I am not a maker of butterscotch, but I get a kick out of this saying, nevertheless.
  10. Colombian Leg Vise

    More than one of this style vise was made. About 35 years ago, our local "Fritz Surplus" in Santa Fe, brought back about a dozen of them from a buying trip. It seems that Columbians kept getting less aesthetically pleasing over time. The leg chamfering and pivot-beam chamfering are gone. Two rivets are reinforcing the pivot-beam weld. The vee-spring is not an improvement, as there is more throw to open the jaw than if it was a single spring, as of old. I suspect that the jaws were drop forged, although I see no die parting lines. I think the screw with screw head were cast as well as the box, but probably not cast iron, more likely semi-steel. I have a hunch this style of vise was World War II vintage. Some of the above is guess work on my part, having had quite a few leg vises go through my hands.
  11. New to the Forge from Falcon, Colorado

    "Rocky Mountain Smiths" is a good group to join.
  12. Has anyone ever seen one of these tiny vises?

    A hand vise, fairly common in the old days. The vise-grips have pretty much replaced them.
  13. Neat old forged hammer

    My first take is that it was a recently made chipping hammer for use by arc welders.
  14. These nails are driving me nuts...

    There are different approaches depending on the smith. One good nail maker I saw short-pointed the end first on the base of the horn to 5/8" or so, then brought it to the near anvil edge for shouldering and drawing the taper. The shoulder can be done over a radiused edge or a relatively sharper edge. A Bic whiteout pen can be used to mark a length line on the anvil face, so the nail end or point is put on the line every time. In that way if you are making multiples of the same length, you will get close to the same length. With the same whiteout, draw a concentric circle around the header hole and use it as a guide for your angle blows, if need be. If you get really handy, you can hardie cut maybe two or three turns only and when placing it in the header, you will already know how it is placed so the proper angle blow is used to center the head. Assuming the head is immediately centered, then you can use angle blows to make the head a three clout or four clout finish.