58er Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malice9610 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 When I was about 12 years old, I found one of these that my dad had made back when he was in high school shop class. the ball was wood. the spikes were old blacksmithing nails. whole thing including handle couldnt have weighed more then 1.5 lbs. of course I played with it, and of course I hurt myself with it, have a nice sized scar on my right forearm from where it decided to bite me. But I was always getting hurt at that age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Weren't we all? I'm thrilled I've lived long enough for the parts to start wearing out. I helped a friend cast a 2.5"(?) aluminum spiked flail ball and we got told to melt it down by the boy's vice principle as soon as word got to him. LA Ca. schools were working HARD to become weapon free. Anyway, Mark and I finished it up in Dad's shop and Mark promptly put himself in the hospital with it. Cost him something like 20 stitches in three places from one swing. The trick working a flail is do NOT try to stop the swing till you hit something. . . .ELSE! It wouldn't have been so bad if Mark hadn't sharpened the spikes to needle points and sharp edges. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrambler82 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 58er, Nice Mace/Fail... ! Love the Dragon's Head ! Not sure if I missed it or passed over the post but how much did the finished product weigh ? I know there was a release signed on this piece but can the blacksmith be held accountable for its use ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 They are very tricky weapons to use---or to defend against. A bit like nunchaku and those have a looooong history of damaging folks who have not trained enough to use them properly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Yeah, nunchaku are a forehead and elbow bane but that's because everybody wants to do the fancy, whirly between the legs, over the shoulder spinny stuff like Bruce Le, NOT learn how to use them. If Sensei caught you doing anything but blocks and hitting the bag with nunchaku you had to run around the block and that was about 4.5 miles. I believe the closest thing so a reasonably effective and safe spiked flail was a pole arm, hafted flails were more for parade, mounts and wall hanging. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 The upside the ball flail is not a class 3 weapon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Frosty said: hafted flails were more for parade, mounts and wall hanging. They were originally intended for threshing grain, actually. Over the years, they were adapted to battle, as many tools were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Will W. said: Over the years, they were adapted to battle, as many tools were. For example, the Okinawan kama derived from the humble sickle, and eventually blended in perfectly in both agricultural and martial environments. One might even call it a "kama chameleon". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 (JHCC----His sanity comes and goes; mine is long gone!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 3 hours ago, JHCC said: One might even call it a "kama chameleon". Ha! Btw, 58er, meant to put it in my earlier post: That thing looks MEAN!!! I would not want to be on the receiving end of it. Nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58er Posted July 29, 2017 Author Share Posted July 29, 2017 Thanks gentleman. ( I'm sure I'm using that term very liberally hehe ) ball weighed in at just a pinch under 35 pounds. These days anyone can seemingly sue anyone for anything, but I've done all I can to protect my self. The rest I trust in God for and worry very little about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Well my Father always said "Never sue anyone that doesn't have any money"---You can't get anything and you still have to pay your lawyer!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 5 hours ago, ThomasPowers said: Well my Father always said "Never sue anyone that doesn't have any money"---You can't get anything and you still have to pay your lawyer!" Probably some of the wisest words I've heard in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 The best defense is an empty wallet eh. Guess I'm pretty safe. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 My brother made a flail in wood shop in high school back in the 50s. At the time he was riding a motorcycle and one day someone cut him off in traffic. The last time he saw it, it was stuck in the trunk lid of a Chevy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Hinsman Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 that sounds.... deadly. but also quite fun if used safely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Glad he didn't have a lanyard on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesaika Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Wow, 35 pounds hanging off the end... Sounds exhausting to even hold. Maybe it's a two handed flail haha! It looks fantastic though, only thing I would want is a bit more decoration on the handle. Hopefully your client doesn't end up hurt from it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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