David R. Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Finally getting my forge built. Only wish I had made the building larger. Judiciouslly placed I think I will still be able to fit in a small bench and post vise, anvil, of course, post drill and bellows overhead. Any ideas for getting dirt floor packed down to cut down on dust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Sawicki Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Nice I like it, can't wait to see it finished! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman16 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 hey david, nice looking shop. I don't know how much your looking to put into it but you could put down a type of crushed asphalt on top of the dirt to help with the dust. just an idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Thiessen Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Looks like it is going to be a great shop! Hope it doesn't get too hot in there for you though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R. Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 Hopefully it won't be too hot. I have a four foot wide door next to the forge and three windows I can open with dirt floor and no ceiling it should be tolerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickb Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Not exactly on target, but can you easily reach the handle on the clinker breaker ? If not, then it's better to fix that now or it will plauge you forever. I know this from experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will W. Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 What I did for the dirt floor in my smithy: weld a 4' steel pipe to a 2'x2' 1/4" steel plate (metric: 120 cm long pipe, 60x60 cm plate, 6 mm thick). Wet the dirt with a garden hose and pack it down with your newly built tamper. If you have no access to a welder, I've seen it done with a sheet of plywood and a few people walking all over it. Either way, it packs the dirt really well and makes it feel quite hard. Over time it will loosen (from you shuffling your feet, dropping things, etc.) This can be combatted by sprinkling quick setting concrete on top of the wet dirt before tamping, or just re tamping it every once in a while. Hope that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewayforge Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I used to have a simple dirt floor- nothing too fancy. The dust didn't become a huge problem, even during the Maryland summers. There would usually be the finer stuff sitting on top of the packed earth, but it never got airbourne. Alternatively, you could get crusher fines or fine gravel and pack it down. After 5 or 6 years, whatever you have will be some sort of metal/scale/ dust/ debris mix that'll be fine as a floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBull Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 In my shop I rented a gas tamping machine and spread out some "quickcrete" concrete then used a rake to mix it around a little, wet the top and tamped it until it was hard packed. Haven't had any problems yet and it's been about 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R. Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 Dickb, I left a tall opening on the left side that allows easy access to the handle. I did have to bend and reshape the lever to get it to clear everything inside and allow full motion of the clinker breaker. I thought about extending it to outside the forge but figured I would be bumping into it then. Thanks for the input on the floor. I have a fine layer of powdery dust that seems to grow. If it is raining I end up with muddy feet and anything you drop is coated with dust. I didn't want a hard (concrete) floor because of issues I already have with my feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 David R, consider a weighted flap that can be dumped with a touch of the foot. IFI senior curmudgeon Frosty the Lucky gave a great description of making one out of a truck exhaust flapper in another thread a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNC Goater Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Dirt floor = fine pea gravel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Stephens Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I had a shop with fine pea gravel as a floor. It always seemed to be moving under me, if it hadn't been for my wife"encouragement" I would have left the floor dirt. If dust become a problem, lightly water it down at the end of the day. It will stay soft and hold dust down. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Crusher run limestone with choke will pack down well. To reduce the water / moisture in the floor, you may want to pipe the downspouts from the house and the shop some distance away from the shop. There is still time to put in a drain with lots of gravel around the drain, under the shop floor. Add perimeter drains around the building to divert any water away from the building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 how about a traditional oxblood and clay floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNC Goater Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 4 hours ago, PVF Al said: I had a shop with fine pea gravel as a floor. It always seemed to be moving under me, if it hadn't been for my wife"encouragement" I would have left the floor dirt. I'll file that away in my mind for future reference. But FWIW, I was kind of thinking of a thin layer packed down into the soil rather than a layer on top. Not sure what I envision is possible though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 I'm in a dry area so moisture is not an issue, I just used fine sand/gravel from the local arroyo and boxed in the floor of the bents of my forge shop with pressure treated lumber and filled them in and struck the line. Very easy on the feet/back; but you can lose stuff if you are not careful. The soil where my shop is located is rated for direct concrete pour on top of it so much like subsoil in other places. If I was in a damp area I would probably excavate, lay down heavy duty plastic and fill to get a drier floor; french drains around the outsides in the extreme cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R. Posted May 12, 2017 Author Share Posted May 12, 2017 I need to be clarify. My floor is dry even when raining, but if I come into it out of the rain the dust sticks to the wet boots and then I have muddy feet going back to the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpservicesinc Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 Nice work.. Looking forwards to finished pictures.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewayforge Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 11 hours ago, David R. said: I need to be clarify. My floor is dry even when raining, but if I come into it out of the rain the dust sticks to the wet boots and then I have muddy feet going back to the house. I think if you substitute the soil dust for crusher fines, you might find its a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 18 hours ago, David R. said: I need to be clarify. My floor is dry even when raining, but if I come into it out of the rain the dust sticks to the wet boots and then I have muddy feet going back to the house. Sounds like you have a necessary beginner project for your shop. A porch boot brush and perhaps drying rack. Don't your boots get dirty and muddy outside now? Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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