The Alchemist Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 My anvil rings like a bell. I have heard of a few trick to help alleviate the vibration and ringing but want some more opinions. Thanks a bunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Search the forum for some ideas. Magnet under the heel, and chain wrapped around the waist are a couple. You have one of those "good problems". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickman Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 The chain made a hugeee difference on my peter wright that rings like crazy. i mean night and day. It's a pretty massive chain though, thickness wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Some anvils I literally tie diwn quite tight. Sound of Silence. Others I use hand forged spikes to "set the anvil inplace" then employ the chain. A few wraps is plenty. I have only used a rubber mounting pad on one anvil, and it is tied down via steel (banding) straps . I have a 1/2" dia tuning fork in one anvil, held in pritchel hole. Most of them also have a large magnet under heel. Never tried silicone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickman Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, Scrambler82 said: On my PW - 162, I am using what came with it, two pieces of heavy walled Right Angle Steel, both the width of the Anvil and one on each end... under the heel and under the horn; without the angled steel it rings a lot, with them it is a quiet ! When I picked it up I tried the Ball Peen Hammer Test, it didn't ring at all, just a dull thud, I got worried and asked for a wrench to release her from her bonds... bing bam it rings ! So what I am saying is, if you don't want the lump of chain around the neck of the Anvil, which I do not want, try different clamping methods, maybe some of the Silicone under the Anvil too. Silence is not always Golden ! Can you post a pic of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Taylor Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Mine is cast so no ring, however that didn't stop me from wrapping it in way too much mooring chain 115lbs of chain is definitely over sized for a 95 lb anvil but I couldn't resist setting how it looked for a couple minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickman Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Scrambler82 said: At the moment I am s little under the wheather but I will try for tomorrow ! ltr no rush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 This is my anvil stand. It's 1/4" x 2" x 3" angle fitted to the anvil's foot. The hammer rack is 3/16 x 1" angle and drives between the anvil and the rack to wedge it together, there is a matching tong rack for the other side. This stand is stable reasonably light and easy to move solid as a rock and quiets my anvil to bearable levels even when struck on the horn or heal. The Trenton has one just like it now. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Frosty, I think the idea is to wrap the chain around the waist of the anvil, not the horn and heel. (grin) You pretty much have the sweet spot covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Alchemist Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 Do modern metal stands work better than wood for ringing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 When I went from a wooden stand to a metal tripod, I was shocked at the difference it made. Adding silicone just amplified (ha, ha) the damping effect. The metal stand is also a lot heavier than the wood, which dramatically increases the anvil's stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickman Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, JHCC said: When I went from a wooden stand to a metal tripod, I was shocked at the difference it made. Adding silicone just amplified (ha, ha) the damping effect. Wait, you mean the metal stand rang less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Alchemist Posted April 30, 2017 Author Share Posted April 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, brickman said: Wait, you mean the metal stand rang less? It makes sense. Hold a bell by a wooden handle, it rings. Put the bell against the ground and it mutes. I get it now. The metal transfers the vibration to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, The Alchemist said: It makes sense. Hold a bell by a wooden handle, it rings. Put the bell against the ground and it mutes. I get it now. The metal transfers the vibration to the ground. It is not a transfer of vibration, but lack of, or killing, the vibration. Hold the bell by the handle and it rings. Hold the sides of the bell and no ring. Think of the anvil as a tuning fork. Increase the vibration and you increase the sound. Reduce the vibration and you reduce the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ThomasPowers Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Not that cast STEEL anvils are generally some of the loudest ringing anvils; but anvils with a cast iron body will be quite quiet. So the term cast needs the material added to it to indicate quiet or loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 hours ago, brickman said: Wait, you mean the metal stand rang less? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Reading about Eagle Anvil Works throws in a huge monkey wrench into conversation. Concerning ringing anvils. Their adds clearly state a solid wrought anvil will not ring and if you believe it, you were fooled. Something to that effect. Their anvil is cast gun iron alloy (steel) and don't ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gote Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 What Glenn said about tuing forks is important. The bottom half of the fork is the feet. To stop the ringing it is important that the feet i.e. the end of the feet have good contact with the stand. I use very slightly dished tree stumps as stands and my anvils are silent. The big one (250 lsb) does not need it but the small one (80 lsb) needed to be clamped down as well. Four 6" nails did the job. If you wedge a piece of wood between the underside of the heel and the stand (London pattern) It becomes muted 100%. That works like holding the rim of the bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Alchemist Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 I put a sheet of industrial rubber under my anvil and then put a pretty large speaker magnet under the shelf, the ringing has stopped. Thanks everyone for your recommendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thief_Of_Navarre Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Wish I could get my brooks that quiet. Perhaps I need rubber aswel as the steel base, magnets & chain lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 To get the anvil quiet, try one method at a time, usually the least complicated and least expensive method first. For me, magnets did not work well. Rubber industrial belting under the anvil, or light weight chain around the waist did much better. That was 2 wraps of 1000 pound chain, or one side of a pair of snow chains for a car. Three inches of sand was the clear choice for deadening the ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNC Goater Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I haven't read all the responses above but I recently acquired a 103# Columbian which is all cast steel. It rings like a church bell. I mean ear piercing. I made an anvil stand of 6, heavy 4x6 posts bolted togeter and routed a center 1 1/2" depressed recess. I fill the recess with around 1/2" of sand. The anvil is seated in the sand. This greatly reduces the ring,(also reduces any bounce or movement whatsoever) though doesn't eliminate the ring altogether. Putting a magnet under the heel and OMGoodness, absolutely no ring at all, just a thud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 The one method that WORKS is ear plugs and then ear muffs, double sound reduction. Great for you but the neighbors get the full ring. (grin) The silence takes some getting used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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