Bill in Oregon Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I just discovered the world of "dark house" pike spearing and was wondering what the best way would be of forging a spear. Thinking some forge welding would have to be involved. Being from Oregon, I had no idea this fishing culture even existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothBore Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I would call that a "Gig", rather than a spear, ... but that's just a regional thing. To make one, I'd bend 3 progressively smaller "staples", and arc or mig weld them to the center point. No need for forge welding, unless you want to do it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill in Oregon Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Thanks Smoothie. All I have is a cheap Harbor Freight wire welder ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 You can take a piece of stock and split it, leaving one center spike, and two side pieces of metal. Then take the left side metal and split it to make 2 more spikes. Do the same for the right side. You will end up with 5 spikes. No welding required. If you need more spikes, plan out the splits and split and peel off one spike at a time on either side. This will reduce the width of the material with each split and spike so a little planning is in order before you start. When finished cut the lengths of the spikes to fit your needs. Nothing wrong with fire welding U shapes onto a common bar either. If you are concerned about your fire welding capabilities, then follow up the fire welds with mig welds. You could even rivet the U shapes to a common bar. Just make the U, flatten the bottom curved part, drill a hole and rivet. The idea is to fish, so make the pike or gig and go try it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 We made single barb frog gigs in high school shop class. No we didn't have frogs worth gigging but that didn't stop us. We'd take a piece of 1/4" rd. and flatten an end a little more than you would were you making a screw driver. Next grind half of it off, from just beyond center on one side to the end of the other, heat it and bend it the hard way so the remaining end turns back near the shaft. Grind a point and edge and you have a single barb gig. With practice you can make one in maybe 10 minutes. You don't need to use 1/4" rd. of course but rd stock does make less work to finish up. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill in Oregon Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Glenn, thanks. I was looking at photos on the Michigan Dark House Angling Association Web site and saw spears with as few as four and as many as nine points, but the majority had seven. We don't have much ice fishing in Oregon , not to mention zero northern pike, but I was wondering about how to proceed nonetheless. Would you be splitting out the tines on a hot cut hardy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I'd split tines and barbs with a hand held hot cut with someone else holding the workpiece. (Well actually I'd forge weld the tines and use the hot cut for the barbs. I'd use what I call a slitter to cut with: thin blade of high alloy steel---H13 is good) Now before I'd get it within a mile of any water I'd check the Fish and Game rules about such things. Just having one in your possession near water could result in some unpleasantness. As I recall in a couple of western states taking fish with a spear is often reserved for indigenous folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McPherson Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 How it's made: garden forks on youtube. Should give you ideas on how to proceed with a fish gig. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY14Oi0i4gg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beech Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 13 hours ago, ThomasPowers said: I'd check the Fish and Game rules about such things. That's what I was thinking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Of course, if you're feeling ambitious, there's this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfootnampa Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I've made a study of such gear. IMO the best spears are made with only one center spike forged from the parent stock. Then pairs of spikes are forged in u shapes with the center of the u left square. They are inserted into a slot mortise and secured with a wedge. IME I've found that I can make nice barbs by forging out a small bump near the tip and then hot or cold cutting the barb with a chisel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikecopXXX Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Bigfoot can you maybe sketch what you're describing? Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Over here we have different styles of eel spears / gigs. The styles depend on the bed of the water you are fishing in - narrow rod type barbs for muddy bottoms and broader heavier barbs for rocky bottoms. There is a book that has a chapter on the variations called nets and coracles if I remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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