Frosty Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Good question. Were I doing work professionally in my shop now I'd have to establish a current shop rate. My shop rate was $100.00/hr back when I did a little fab work and if I were up to apprentice standards of 100/hr. a bulk order would have to be around $1.50 ea. to put a little in my shop fund.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I found myself wondering how big the market for hand forged nails were and what they'd cost but never looked into it. I'd never guess $1+ for one nail. Looks like I need to get busy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I talked to a lady that interned at one of the hard core historic sites one summer (Monticello?, Mt Vernon?) and she mentioned helping to make all the nails for the barn they were building, 5000 IIRC...bet she could make a nail in 1/2 a heat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Einhorn Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Years ago I visited the Williamsburg Blacksmith shop with the Mid-Atlantic Blacksmith Guild. They had a nail-making station that they constructed based upon their research. They needed the nail-making station because of the large volume of nails that they needed to manufacture. The top photo of their nail-making station that I took, the second photo is a Swedish nail-making station. The Williamsburg station is amazing, the taper is forged on the anvil block, then notched in the hardy, the hardy has flats on it to act as a stop, then broken off in the header, headed, and then flipped out by poking the lever that is next to the hardy.... all in one heat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I like the ingenuity of the Williamsburg setup. It looks like it would be really easy using that setup to get quick batches done in no time. I might just recreate it for the fun of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) I like the notcher, may have to make one to speed up my college students when they have to make 2 nails for the Fine Arts Metals Instructor as part of the class. Sure would save wear and tear on my hardies and hammer faces... Edited August 27, 2015 by ThomasPowers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 I sell for 1.00 at the fair and historical society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 SReynolds, using what size stock? What is the overall length of the nail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 site not working trying something different herethree sixteenths and quarter inch shank about three inches long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 That sounds like a monster. I've driven 20d nails by hand with a 16oz hammer and I can't say I'd be willin to try yours lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Stupid forbidden message.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I've been getting around the forbidden message by writing my message then exiting the thread. Coming back and clicking in the text window brings my message back up and I submit it. It's working more often than the edit and paste method.There are however some threads I seem to be forbidden regardless.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 I have done that as well and it hasn't worked for me thus far. Thinking about typing in German. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaughnT Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 the second photo is a Swedish nail-making station. I've saved that Williamsburg photo to my collection with the intent of building one for myself. I never seem to get around to it, but maybe one day.... That photo from the Swedish guy is actually part of a video I got to see on youtube. The smith is an absolute master at making nails. Watching him work was a real joy, just hate that I lost the link to the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SReynolds Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 At the end of class this weekend, I did a 1.5 hr lesson on nail making. No one could. That is to say, it looked sorta like a nail, but was quite flawed. Not to mention, the students beat the nail header. It takes a lot of practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaughnT Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Since I'm forbidden from accessing the other thread, I thought I'd put up this dandy video for general consumption. I really enjoy hunting for videos of old smiths in far off Europe. Youtube is thick with them, but you have to hunt hard to find the good ones. Anyhow, here's a great video from a recent hunt on youtube. The guy's nail-forging station is simple and easily replicated. Forging the ox shoes looks like it would be a test, though! Edited September 21, 2015 by VaughnT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianinsa Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Thanks for posting that, definitely worth a gander! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Obvious amateurs, a real smith needs a London pattern anvil to makes things...... Nice teamwork on the shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Good show for sure though I have to admit it took me a little while to remember ox have cloven hooves. Till then I was wondering what heck they were making.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokkr Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 VaughnT Nice video. They looked to be punching out the nail holes with incredible ease. I've shod plenty of horses but have never seen an ox done, live anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWISTEDWILLOW Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Sorry for waking up a sleeping thread, that Williamsburg nail making station is pretty awesome! did any of y’all ever get around to replicating it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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