anvil Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 On 6/5/2021 at 8:59 AM, sidesaddle queen said: i am not one of them To be clear, my morality statement was meant as a general evil we all encounter and in no way meant towards anyone here. We blacksmiths are often confronted with, as an example, someone who wants our work with no makers mark in order to resell our work for antique prices. I encountered this, again, a few years back. It still a sore topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I would've had to try a Ky spring saddle back in the day, right now 15 minutes in the saddle would have me in pain for a couple days. I've never been able to spend much time in a padded saddle without it rubbing my legs raw. My old Tex Tanner was hard as a board and polished as the president's desk. Tight jeans slid on the saddle so nothing rubbed my hide. Our days raising horses were some of the best, I miss them. I have to admit I was pretty heavy handed to start with, it took a while to learn enough equine-lish to learn how to ask and coax cooperation. A cooperative horse is a much better companion than an intimidated or scared one. I caught out horses by pulling a handful of whatever was growing by the gate and slipping my belt around their neck when they came to me to get the treat and some loving. I was way too fat and lazy to run around the pasture playing chase with HORSES. Chase is normal horse play. There were some kids who'd get so frustrated they'd start throwing road apples trying to drive their horse into a corner. I was "lucky," my horse would come to me. Their horses came to me too. I must be magic or something huh? Horses are also very curious, you can get wild horses to come investigate you by ignoring them and doing something fiddly our of their sight. I'm pretty sure it'd be near suicidal to try slipping my belt over a mustang's neck though it'd be easy enough to rig a snare with a lariat and a couple sticks. Might even be successful, I don't know. It works for other animals too and I foolishly proved to myself I could charm a moose close enough to pet were I crazy. One evening in Delta Junction maint. camp I noticed a moose wander to the sand pile to lick salt. So I sat quietly and every tie it looked elsewhere I gave a little cluck or snapped my fingers. In no time at all it was poking it's head in my tent and sniffing me. Talk about unintended consequences! Of course you never know when you'll be really REALLY hungry enough to do something crazy to eat. I'd rather noodle fish. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Very amoosing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidesaddle queen Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 my kentucky saddle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Knowing nothing of saddles and horses, I have learned a lot from this topic. Thanks Plum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidesaddle queen Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 lol!! way off topic now.. lol!!! i quit... back to rivets ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 It has been a riveting discussion, a little sideways but interesting none the less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 And rivets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidesaddle queen Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 a riveting conversation!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 You want air; ride a McClellan! Now for the important question "Which 1907 book?" I'm sure John would like to know too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidesaddle queen Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 i was wrong.. it was not the 1907 book it was the 1937 book by thomas f. googerty decorative wrought ironwork.. projects for beginners pg 10 an drawing of the header and forging instructions. fig 3. vise heading tool john now knows.. lol!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Thanks; he was rather a well know person in the smithing world back then. I have an original copy of another one of his books from 1911 IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidesaddle queen Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 yes, i have 2 of his books.. i like the way he explains things.. you are lucky to have an original!!! nice!!, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I was actually talking with Lindsay books to see if they wanted to reprint it; but they shut down before we got together on it. It's in mint condition! "Hand Forging and Wrought Iron Ornamental Work" published by Popular Mechanics Company; 1911----wow it's appreciated a LOT in price compared to what I paid for my copy. I'm glad it's being reprinted cheap as it's an interesting book! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Ewert Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I put a small chamfer on the inside edge of the boss hole so the tongs don't act like a shear on the rivet. If you punch the hole and have a small radius it's not needed. If you drill the hole it's not a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Good tip Ted. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidesaddle queen Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 that is the other book of his that i have,, very interesting!! i picked it up on eBay!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 I picked up in a used book store. We tried to hit everyone we could find when we went on vacations pre internet. (How I found my facsimile edition of Moxon's "Mechanicks Exercises" ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidesaddle queen Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 yes .. i really miss used book stores,,, i used to spend hrs in the up in main when we went up there for the summer.. incredible books i would never have found in east texas.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 When I was actively collecting bayonets, there is/was a used bookstore over in Fayetteville by the UofA. The owner there has/had an very large and diverse inventory. He once told me that when he was in the Korean war his outfit participated in the last bayonet charge of the Army at the Chosin Reservoir. I haven't been there in years, I really need to take a trip over there to see if he is still in business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 The one on Dickson Street? I got my copy of Payne Gallwey's "The Crossbow" from them back in the late 1970's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 I've got facsimile copies of the Googerty books on order; looking forward to their arrival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, ThomasPowers said: The one on Dickson Street? Yep, can't remember the name though. Just looked it up (love Google) Dickson Street Book Shop. Still there although don't know if the same owner, haven't been there since the late '70s early '80s. Edited June 10, 2021 by Irondragon ForgeClay Works Add store name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidesaddle queen Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 rivets are done!! time to rebuild,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 Very nice! I though for a moment that the vise grip in the second photo was part of the saddle (perhaps a loop to attach some kind of strap) and thought "Wouldn't that dig into the horse?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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