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  1. There was no company named Trenton that made anvils. Columbus Forge and Iron made anvils marked with "Trenton" as their house brand. They also made them that were marked ACME, AJAX, and others. Hay-Budden also made anvils marked ACME.
  2. GB sent me a note...the serial number listed was different than the picture. AIA says 1922-23 for the actual serial number in case anybody was wondering.
  3. I have a small 114# early Hay-Budden with a base that looks identical to yours. Mine has a 4-digit serial number which dates to 1913 (2nd year or production) and has plenty of the factory markings on the side to positively identify it. I've had one other early H-B with a similar base, but can't recall if I have any pictures of it or not. Sorry the pics aren't great...just took them before I headed to the house to pull out AIA and check the serial number.
  4. Emerald is a bit difficult to work with (I bought two anvils from him). We had a long back and forth over several months and I told him I wanted to buy three vises to fill a pallet (1,000lbs). All along, I was up front and said it might take me a few months to decide on anvils, and have the money at the same time, and he said he was fine with holding onto them until they could ship at the same time. I bought one anvil, then a month or so later bought another. I was trying to decide on a third, but never got to that. Oh, he won't take anything but a wire transfer if you buy outside o
  5. That makes sense...could be something else entirely as well. Is there any documentation or idea when they changed to the newer stamp style? I have it mounted on a nice fabricated steel stand and my search for the perfect smaller anvil is probably over.
  6. My Soderfors has a number that could well be a serial number....can't see how it could possibly be a date. Everyone who sees this beauty tries to buy it, but she's mine, mine, mine all mine.
  7. Technically, your anvil isn't a "Trenton". Columbus Forge and Iron made anvils with many names on them, with Trenton being the name they sold as their own brand. When they made them for others they had a variety of names stamped on the side. Assuming Anvils in America is correct, CFI only made around 300 anvils for Shapleigh Hardware Co....so it's definitely unusual and a great find! Unfortunately, some folks always seem to semi-scold someone for asking if their newly found anvil is rare, or how old it is, or how many were made. You just have to ignore that.
  8. Fair enough. I opened the first picture up to it's full size, and it looked like the one chip at the front, and one near the back had sharp edges on the top side, but it could just be the lighting since metal isn't easy to get good pictures of. Obviously, running a finger over them would be worth lots of pictures
  9. I'm not asking to start an argument...just an honest question. You wouldn't lightly dress the sharp edges on some of those chips so they don't get worse?
  10. I recall there were changes over time in the number of handling holes, with some variation based upon weight, as well as the shape of the depression in the base. Pictures of the base along with pictures of any handling holes might help as well. You sure picked a good one to find first!
  11. It depends on the brand/model and how the spindle is retained. The majority of vises use a set collar of some kind on the inside of the dynamic jaw to retain the spindle. You take the dynamic jaw out, flip it over, and there will be an obvious set collar. Wear to either the back of the spindle, or the set collar, creates a gap you have to take up by turning the handle. With the dynamic jaw out of the body you'll be able to push/pull on the spindle and see the slop. You can usually add a thrust washer in front of the set collar to tighten things up, or rotate the position of the set c
  12. I just ordered a Diamondback 2-burner blacksmith model over the weekend after reading lots of threads like this, and a number of reviews, and YouTube videos. I'm really looking forward to it. I might be able to help with the post vise and anvil...I seem to have a knack for finding them. I'll send you a PM.
  13. The range is pretty broad depending upon brand, model and condition. For example, the 6" Reed swivel jaw I'm hoping to get a shot at eventually would be an easy $500 in many places and higher in some where vises are scarce. If it were an 8" Reed swivel jaw that number easily doubles. I have a buddy who has a 7" Yost swivel jaw he would sell for $750, and it could really do with having a new set of jaws custom made for it. Up through 6" models it's pretty easy to price the, but any bigger they're fairly rare and the folks buying them don't necessarily like to share what they pay for the
  14. It may be an issue of semantics, but I don't think a true chipping vise would ever have a rear swivel jaw, for one reason; they are much, much weaker than a standard vise. A heavy chipping vise was used for rather severe duty, and it wouldn't make much sense to use a far weaker design if there was any way around it. For many/most people, a rear swivel jaw is nothing but a liability. That's why so many of them are found with the pin hammered in almost permanently, or welded in, or the whole assembly was drilled and tapped with a large bolt to secure the swivel from moving at all or t
  15. Saw that one as well. It's like the estate sale people don't even look at some of the pictures they post!
  16. 240lb, 8" jaw American Scale I picked up last year. Some 8" models were 300lbs+. They actually look smaller in pictures than in person
  17. Thanks Glenn...it was just too nice to pass up. I'll try pictures with chalk and side lighting to better highlight the details. It's marked as 130lbs and weighed just a touch over 125lbs on my bathroom scale. I don't know which is correct, but I've had pretty good luck using that scale to weigh packages for UPS and Fedex, so I'm going with the 125lb reading. I should add that it's 11 1/2" tall and 24" long overall. I'll try to remember to measure the face when I try the chalk pictures. I'm just tickled to have found it and can't wait to try it out! Experts feel free to chime in.
  18. It's not like I really needed another anvil, but I saw this one, and it was too good of a deal to pass up. At the very least I thought some pictures might help someone down the road identify a similar anvil. The seller said it was his grandfather's anvil that the family believes he bought new when he went to work for the county doing blacksmithing and farrier work. According to AIA, it should be around a 1913 production, and the seller said that made sense because that was very shortly after his grandfather came to this country, and was the year one of his mother's siblings was born (
  19. It's unfortunate that it was misrepresented, but it's still a reasonable price for a 5" Parker. I've had two just like it, and they weighed 105lbs, so still a very solid piece. Yours should clean up nicely.
  20. I've only owned two Hay Buddens, and am not an expert on them, but have a thought or two. Can you post pictures? A good picture of the serial number (might have to play around with a flashlight and angles) and both sides? I ask about the sides because HB changed their design around 1908 and the later anvils usually have a clear weld line where the solid steel top half starts and some sort of heat treat numbers on the side opposite the logo. That would at least narrow things down a bit if it eliminates everything before or after the change. Here's a pic of a Lakeside stamped Hay Budde
  21. For whatever reason, I seem to be able to find bench vises and anvils without much trouble, but finding a larger post vise has been a challenge. I just got home with this 6" Iron City...looks to be pretty good, and weighed right at 100lbs. Stop two was to pick up the 130lb Lakeside Hay Budden that I'm really tickled with....looks like 1913 production, one nearly perfect edge and another with a couple of chips that should dress up nicely.
  22. You did well on that one...hard to find a decent 6" vise for anywhere near that price!
  23. I lived in Waldorf until 2006 and used to hit golf balls at the range in La Plata on 301 :-) Welcome, and nice find on the anvil. Any idea what it weighs?
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