coldironkilz Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Caged bean pendant inspired by pawnee1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccustomknives Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Ok, I'm dying to know. How'd you get the bean in there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 He is a blacksmith, nuff said. He used a magic bean He grew the bean plant and put the seed pod inside the cage. Lots of possibilities. (grin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiltsbilt Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 thats cool good work. what size stock did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldironkilz Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 So...I used 3 1/4 finish nails, it is power brushed (wire wheel). I used Johnson's paste wax and a rag to finish. I used four nails, twice twisted then opened. As for getting the bean in...well, if you really want to make these, well, that's part of the joy of blacksmithing (solving a problem). When you discover the answer you will also discover it's absolute simplicity. The bean is a Jacobs cattle bean. We have been growing them for years on our farm, with the same seed stock (open pollinated). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldironkilz Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 Thanks Glenn, I have been asked before if I was a blacksmith (horseshoer), but I have never been called a blacksmith before...thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj2k Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 He does it cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windancer Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I really like this! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCornett Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 My question is Was the bean moist when you placed it inside the cage? If not, how did you keep it from burning up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rthibeau Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 good basket twist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldironkilz Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 Philip, I first tried to put the bean into a hot basket by wrapping it in aluminum foil placing it into the basket and throwing the whole mess into the water bucket. By the time I peeled the foil off the bean the bean was soaked just enough that the skin slipped. So I tried another method which worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nice bean pendant. Don't you just love the questions folks ask trying to figure out how it was done. Mmmmm, high powered bean shooter from 10 paces? Frosty the Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 My guess.... is... the bottom four pieces were not forgewelded together at any stage... He did the top, did the twisting and what not with the bottom lot tacked together, Ground off the tack, opened the four pieces up enough from the bottom, for the bean to fit in, put it in, closed it, mig welded it and ground it. Just a guess! Nice work! Very cool!!!! :) Alec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinobi Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 very well done! i really like the shape of it and the basket is very nice! my guess would be that the basket was left open enough on the last heat to let the bean slip in and then twisted back together cold (it works on small wire projects, i dunno how well it would scale up to something that size in steel no less though...) Alec's mig weld theory might hold water too, the weld on the bottom does appear a little different than the one on top. i think the next one should be done with a kernel of popcorn (unpopped!) and then we can keep guessing :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec.S Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Chinobi! I LIKE YOUR IDEA!!! Makes a lot of sense! Not sure if I should stick or twist with my bet...... I will stick to my first instincts.... MIG ;) Ahaaa Alec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimsShip Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I would guess cold twisting the final step. I suppose you could also wrap the bean in thick paper (or thin cardboard) and quickly pop it in before the final twist, you might be able to quench it before the paper burned through, but that would take some quick precision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman50 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Cool and interesting pendant! Like it. Very creative and opens a lot of possibilities like putting birthstones or beads. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldironkilz Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 I made a few more of these the other day. Screwed one up...the bean wouldn't fit, so I went out on the lane found a pebble that would fit, finished the thing...it looks pretty ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksnagel Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 My guess would also be cold twist. Hot twist to shape just a little over sized to fit in the bean and then cold twist to finish. Or not. Really neat work. Mark <>< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCornett Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 would like a pic of the rock one added. It would be interesting to see what other media looks like inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldironkilz Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Here's a few pictures of the pendant with the pebble inside, finished with brass patina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinobi Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 that looks awsome dude! i love the size relationship between the pebble and the caged volume of the twist, theres very little extra space so it looks really clean, almost like the pebble is growing within a cable and busting it up as it expands. that would probably look pretty awsome with a marble in the cage too :) (im getting kind of stir crazy because it feels like it takes forever to get back to the anvil for me :( ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldironkilz Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Chinobi, the pendant with the stone was closed down tight (while cold as are the others) around the stone (no movement) when I do a bean I like to hear the bean rattle, somewhat like it would when inside the pod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinobi Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 got to try my hand at one of these on saturday, used 14 gauge copper electrical wire, wasnt quite set up right to try to properly forge weld the copper so i ended up just melting it together. started with one piece about 8 inches long and bent it in half and fused both ends, then halved it again and fused those ends. wasnt doing a very good job tapering so i put a rough brazeal type hexagonal ball on the lower end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 That turned out pretty nice. Copper forge welds pretty easily, a light dusting of borax and it welds at a medium to bright red. Get it at temp and you can weld it with a pair of pliers. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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