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Restoring a Trenton Anvil
Black Frog replied to Matt Tenson's topic in Anvils, Swage Blocks, and Mandrels
Thanks for the pic! That is the 6th style of U.S.-based production logo stamp they used. -
Restoring a Trenton Anvil
Black Frog replied to Matt Tenson's topic in Anvils, Swage Blocks, and Mandrels
How about a close-up of the side logo stamp? -
Restoring a Trenton Anvil
Black Frog replied to Matt Tenson's topic in Anvils, Swage Blocks, and Mandrels
You mean made in 1923? Please post a close-up picture of the side logo stamp, and of the serial number on the front foot under the horn. Trenton had several different logo stamp styles through their history. -
124 lbs. SS Hay Budden Anvil Clean up
Black Frog replied to Forrest Betts's topic in Anvils, Swage Blocks, and Mandrels
This is a solid steel Hay Budden. It wasn't cast. It wasn't made in separate pieces. Full forming dies used to form the anvil in one piece. Round plunger mark is a dead giveaway if the "SS" is not visible on the serial number. -
Looks to be a A&H or Trenton. If you can get a shot of the underside of the base, that would tell more. Look on the front foot under the horn for a serial number.
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Good for you, congrats!
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Whether you might be interested or not, has absolutely no bearing on today's market price for anvils. Compare anvils of similar size and condition to themselves, and others like them in your area. Not to a generic ratio of money vs weight for anywhere in the country.
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Anvils were sold by the pound, but as the weight changed so did the rate per pound. Sometimes the small anvils were at a higher price per pound than large ones.... The major brands didn't make many small ones, and they didn't make many large ones. The vast majority of anvils made were between 75# and 250#. Once you get outside of that range in today's market, the price escalates quickly as you reach both ends of the weight spectrum. To think a 20# Trenton is going to sell for $40 to $60 ($2-$3 per pound, right?!?) is lunacy unless you stumble into one by mistake. Just as a 600# Hay Budden in decent shape isn't going to be anywhere near $1200-$1800 unless you might find a sweetheart deal of incredible rarity. Today's market cannot be looked the same as the "new anvil" market of 1910.
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$1600 for a nice 400+ pound A&H won't be around all that long I'm guessing.... Looks like a "1" character in the middle of the side. So guessing 410 to 419 pounds?
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Looks nice! Thanks for the pics
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I believe I have a Trenton Anvil....?
Black Frog replied to 264booking@gmail.com's topic in Anvil Reviews by brand
You have a Hay Budden anvil. 1907 according to Anvils In America. -
Some Arm & Hammers are quite smooth on the underside of the heel. And some marked Trentons look very choppy under the heel like A&H's. That is a Trenton anvil. Anvils In American lists it as 1924 date. Can you post a closeup picture of the side of the anvil (horn facing right)? there may be some faint stamping, that serial number and logo are important to me for the Trenton logo database. Thanks!
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Most likely a Trenton, could possibly be A&H. Take a closeup pic of the side of the anvil, horn facing right, I think I can see some faint marks in your pic above. Also look on the front foot under the horn for serial number.
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Sisco Superior, made in Sweden. Excellent quality. Sisco was a U.S. company for importing Swedish steel products started in 1907.
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Fisher no doubt
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Picked up an anvil today! Help me identify?
Black Frog replied to Urthman's topic in Anvils, Swage Blocks, and Mandrels
Urthman, PM sent... -
Another Trenton Question
Black Frog replied to Farmall's topic in Anvils, Swage Blocks, and Mandrels
That is the first U.S.- based production stamp. Quite often (most of the time) it carried the German spelling of the "SOLID WROT" stamp, up until they changed to the next style of stamp. -
Found an Anvil For Sale
Black Frog replied to Anachronist58's topic in Anvils, Swage Blocks, and Mandrels
....That looks to be a rare one-piece, solid steel Hay-Budden. Look for the "SS" near the serial number.... -
There would have been one more number on that serial number for that style of logo. A7101x that would be 1907 according to Anvils In America. The holes in the side are odd, as is what looks to be a large bolt head on the underside of the base? Sometimes there was a square handling hole there. Guessing this anvil possibly had a cracked waist and these are the evidence of repairs...
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Tungsten, absolutely gorgeous! PM sent to your inbox...
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Take some full measurements, total length, face width, and height. Is it for sale?