Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I think he is repairing his loin cloth with rivet's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I haven't been able to find a reverse angle shot (probably because there's a lake right there), but another photo I saw makes it pretty clear that whatever he is forging is not part of his clothing, but looks like a bundle of hair or flame. Maybe this is supposed to represent him forging Zeus's thunderbolts? Hephaestus was usually represented wearing the ἐξωμίς (exomis), a simple garment worn by workmen and slaves. However, the historical version of that garment fastened on the left shoulder, thus: (Not that we'd expect a sculptor who takes such artistic license -- even artistic licentiousness -- to be concerned with the norms of classical art, of course.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 He couldn't find his hold down so he is improvising. It would look a bit more awkward if they were showing him using the blacksmiths third hand (holding the workpiece or tongs with his inner thighs) with him wearing nothing but a loincloth. Imagine what those that didn't know would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 The sculpture from the Chimei Museum instantly made me hear, "LOOK WHAT I CAN DO!', in my head. Seriously though JHCC mentioning it looks like a bundle of hair perhaps he's forging his helpers. Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobtiel1 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I came across this figure in the second hand book store. A very interesting ... representation .. I would call it. ~Jobtiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 "I don't hold with wearing ironmongery, whether it wears well or no." -- Hamfast Gamgee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 "Have anvil will travel..." I hope you bought it just for that unique illustration, if nothing else.... Notice the Rube Goldberg way he runs his bellows. Reminds me of a one man band in a way.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I like it, If anybody makes a poster let me know, please. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Would old black and white historical photo's of smiths and such count? I've always considered them a bit artistic. Jerry, my sister will make a poster for a price. She said discount for two (I want one). She's got a plotter printer or whatever they are called. Bet I could talk her down to free. Shipping can't cost that much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Looks like that first one was prone to heartburn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobtiel1 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Unfortunately I didn't get the book, the price wasn't really right. I have noted it in case I come across it again for a better price. ~Jobtiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I wonder what all those guys are waiting for the dog to do? If she'll do it I'd like a poster of the Baroque blacksmith Jobteil posted. It'd be worth plenty just to see the look on Deb's face when I hang in on a living room wall. I'll have to take down something of hers to generate full effect of course but I heal pretty fast. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 I'll see what she can do. Looks like they are waiting for him to get on the treadmill that drives the lineshaft. None of them look to ambitious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 He is sitting up, like a good dog, waiting for the guy sitting down to give it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 You're a cruel man! If I pick up THAT straight line I'll get in trouble; heck I'd moderate myself! Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 That's what happens when typing faster than my brain can follow. Meant to say sitting up for a dog treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 I'm glad I self moderated. It was close though and I like it here. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Self control, eh, Jerry? https://www.barryflanagan.com/artworks/large-nijinski-on-anvil-point/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I try Scott, I really do. Nice piece of art and now I know who Nijinski was. Eye candy AND something new to tuck into a fold of my brain. I come back from one of Deb's therapy sessions, chase the dogs around a little, drag up another sled of firewood, enjoy another gloriously clear day and come in to what I'm calling a win win. Thanks Scott. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Yes, anytime.... Here is a mural I found on the internet. It's in Dillsboro, NC and might be worth a visit to see it and The Metals Shop that features the first blacksmith forges and art foundry ever fired on landfill gas. They have glass blowing as well. I see he has no safety glasses on..... https://www.muraltrail.com/cgi-bin/dillsboro/green-energy-park/ Edited March 23, 2022 by Nodebt Fix a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 I also notice that he is choked up on his hammer as all the hands in the corner are too. It also appears that he is hammering cold iron. The anvil is oriented 180 degrees from the normal orientation for a right handed smith. I suspect that the artist had seen a blacksmith at work once but it was a long time ago and from a distance. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Looks like a poster or ad made by an ad agency, certainly not a blacksmith. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott NC Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Let us tear that mural to pieces. I noticed all that stuff too. Why is there a a sign that says "work" on the anvil? Good gravey! Did anybody catch the part about using dump gas to fuel a forge, foundry and glass blowing forge/furnass? Maybe they are doing some good things there. Maybe livestock methane may be the blacksmiths last resort someday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Organic methane powered forges might be a good idea. I know LOTS of blacksmiths that're plenty gassy enough to power a furnace. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I don't know that there is a normal orientation for a smith; last time I got into this discussion I did a trawl through all 4 volumes of "Practical Blacksmithing" and recorded the anvil orientation WRT the forge on any drawings of shop set up. As I recall the first one had the anvils horn pointed directly at the forge as they did mainly rings in that shop...I think it depends one what you are doing and how you do it! Like do you stand facing the side of the anvil or facing parallel to the long axis of the anvil for instance. Both are documented stances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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