wrickm

Newbie, Gasser, Forge Welding, Sweat, Frustration

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Greetings friends! I am new to this and working hard to try and acquire some basic skills. I try and go out to the garage and do something every day, but this last week has been an exercise is frustration.  Let me cut to the chase: I am trying to make forge welded chain links and i just can't seem to get the weld to stick.  Relevant info:

Hell's forge 2 burner Propane forge

3/8" Mild Steel  "Weld Steel" from Lowe's

Iron mountain flux

Heating to bright yellow w/white edging

process: shape the link, scarf, heat again, flux, heat to bright yellow, fast light taps, flux, heat to bright yellow, taps refine weld, heat to bright yellow, further refine, go to flatten out the link a bit, watch "forge weld" come apart, feel bile rising up inside, stifle cursing, repeat until i go look online for help (what i found on here seems to match what i'm doing).  Am i missing something? I feel like i am close to burning the metal, it is getting that rough texture that wont wire brush off.  Please give me something else to try.  

for the record i usually make a hook or some small project i find online that does not involve welding before i try a new link so that i get some work in other areas, but man i just want to get this. 

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For mild steel, heat to orange and wire brush by hand. Put it back into the fire and heat to high yellow or white, and watch for it to throw the first spark or two. Touch the two pieces together while they are in the fire, and if they stick to each other, it is at welding temperature and you have a weld.

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Clean, clean, clean. Like Glenn said, "Watch for the first spark or two.". I also put a piece of test stock in the fire with the pieces I want to weld to use to touch against the stock to see if it will stick.  At welding heat the surface will almost look wet.  It took me many tries but once you get it it's like a light going on in your head. That's not to say I still don't have problems with welding but once it makes sense it kinda all falls into place.  Good luck and remember it's supposed to be fun.

Pnut

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Thank you for your responses.  I had to take a day. . . . I am pretty hard on myself.  I am back at it today and will move forward with the tips both of you have given me.  thanks again!

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Another day. another failure. I really don't know what to do here.  I turned the forge all the way up, let the link soak in that heat for a LONG time.  Never saw sparks but i watch the flux boil off, the surface seem to move a bit.  Take it out, less than a step to the anvil and when i tap them it is like the just slide off each other, no stickiness at all. i have included a pic of the piece of metal because. . . i don't know. . .because. Maybe this forge just can't quite do it.  Note pic is after a very vigorous wire brushing. . .

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You may want to look at another reference How to make a perfect forge weld, every time.

A full moon on Friday the 13th is an extremely rare occurrence, according to the Farmers' Almanac. It reports that this will be the first full moon visible across the U.S. on Friday the 13th since Oct. 13, 2000. The next one isn't expected to happen again for another 30 years—on Aug. 13, 2049.  You may want to try your luck today.  September Equinox 2019 will be at 3:50 AM on Monday, September 23, 2019.

Would not want to miss an opportunity when the "stars" align. :)

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Look in the reference section at the top of this forum and click on JLP videos, she has a video about forging a chain 3 links.... I think that is the title. It's toward the bottom. You may find it helpful.

Pnut 

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The story Glenn is referring to is great. Anyone that hasn't read it, should. 

I agree with what pnut said about the JLP video. While your there, give her other vids a watch. She is amazing

I didn't even realize it was Friday the 13th until my son told me!

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