671jungle Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Another FrankenBurner said: edge of the anvil and over the trunk. It is a wonderful tool. Great looking tool. I work alone and this build has been on my mind for some time. Them burrs are something else. Had a number of them lodged into my hands when i built my first burner. Can totally tell if a lodged foreign object is metal or not by the weird almost shock-like pain. Similar to biting on foil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Rotary tools usually throw debris in a pattern, think of sparks from a grinder. First, stay out of the pattern. Close fitting safety glasses with an additional layer of goggles or a full face shield add a extra level of protection. There will always be the bounce effect and some debris getting under a face shield, but you can greatly reduce the risk of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Don't forget to thoroughly brush out your hair BEFORE removing the goggles! I had one in my hair drop into my eye later. Luckily I was able to remove it with one of the scary strong disk drive magnets before it could embed, just a little scratching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another FrankenBurner Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I also lack the dexterity for left handed burr work. Good idea though. I am going to give it a try anyway. Makes me want for a counterclockwise rotary tool. I was worried about bringing it in the house on my clothes as it tends to get everywhere. I had not thought about cleaning out my hair. Thank you for that tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Another FrankenBurner said: Makes me want for a counterclockwise rotary tool. Heck, reversed rotary tools would be easy to make.............................only problem is the billions of $$$ it would take to make all the "reverse" bits to go in'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I have been involved with certain shop projects where my wife made me strip on the patio and turned the hose on me before she would let me in the house. I think every smith should have one of those scary strong magnets in the med kit. Another thing that helps me a lot is a lighted magnifier on an arm to help me remove slivers from my hands---also SHARP pointed tweezers. (I like my needles from my insulin pump resevoirs for "excavation work" on splinters and slivers.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven NY Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Hello All, This is my guillotine tool, I have never seen one like it before. It has worked great for me for over 10 years. I have had to re-weld a few things over the years but it has taken a heck of a beating in that time. Over the years I have added to the tooling that fit the frame. I can also just use the top tool with this design and have the metal resting on the flat plate at the bottom of the frame. Have a good one, W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another FrankenBurner Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I am looking for advice on the dies of my new guillotine tool. They are 4140. I would like to harden them for durability. I don't want to go striking with a hardened hammer face. What heat treat is recommended? Should I leave them normalized and rely on the toughness of the metal or should I harden them and come up with a mild steel hammer to strike with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven NY Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hello, I weld on a mild steel striking surface, it keeps the top of your dies from mushrooming, and is replaceable if needs must. I also have a mild steel hammer I use for punches and chisels. So I would say either option would work. I only heat treated my butcher tool do to the the fine edge. I leave all others as forged, a few of them are just mild steel and have held up for many years. Have a good one, W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 What alloys do you usually forge in those dies? High alloy steels with high hot hardness may need a different heat treat than 1005 for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLeod Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I got home today and have been thinking about making a guillotine for the last three weeks. As always I find the inspiration on iforgeiron! Another great thread! I earlier this evening located a leaf spring I took off a van about 12 years ago and excavated it. The other one can’t be far away so this one is going to make a prototype, the kind where I’ll make as many mistakes as possible in order to learn the maximum amount from the experience. I have a nice lump of dry ash wood I got from the sawmill last year and want to make a wee foot stool with a steel tenoned base. A guillotine will help with the joints and I have a couple of fancy dies in mind. Thanks for all the tips. There, I’ve said it now so I’m going to have to do it. I said guillotine out loud to my old french anvil earlier, she’s excited about it too. I was also very impressed with the tidiness of the workshops in the photos on this thread. Puts me and my wee hovel to shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another FrankenBurner Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I will typically forge A36 and 1018 with these dies. Thank you for mentioning that. I would not have thought about that. I do play with some spring steels and 4140. No S7 or h13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/20/2020 at 8:40 AM, Steven NY said: I weld on a mild steel striking surface, it keeps the top of your dies from mushrooming, and is replaceable if needs must. Are the top dies two pieces? A striking surface attached with a retaining pin to the working face of the die. That's a great idea. Pnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I do hope you explained to your French Anvil that you qualify as a sans-culotte and so will make use of the guillotine but not be fodder for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven NY Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Punt, Yes they are, the idea being if I mess up a die or it does not do what I want I waste less steel. It also allows me to replace the striking section while maintain the dies. After thousands of hits it really takes a beating. The top section can also and is made of different steel than the dies. Have a great day, W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLeod Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 3:23 PM, ThomasPowers said: sans-culotte I look up to the sans-culotte Well, after cutting up rust leaf springs and cutting up some plate to make a frame which took all of yesterday, including head scratching time, I changed my approach today. I went for something that suits the small stock I mainly use and cobbled this together using an old square profile caravan axle. I suppose what I really mean is I went for something more suited to my ability! It’s not pretty but I can turn the dies 90 degrees in it which will come in handy. I had to do a silly shaped hardy peg for Anvilina’s silly shaped hardy hole but it doesn’t go anywhere when I leather it. Apart from work on my sons dirt bike I did nothing else today, Mrs MacLeod’s to do list grows longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irondragon Forge ClayWorks Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Great idea using square dies, may have to build another Guillotine myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLeod Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Irondragon Forge & Clay said: Great idea using square dies, may have to build another Guillotine myself. To be honest, it’s more of a happy coincidence from an easier to make(for me) design rather than much forethought and planning. Handy for marking lines on my pokers before twisting(with v shaped dies) will save messing about the grinder, and twice as fast as a chisel- in theory! Won’t take long for you to make one of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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