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Ever heard of Shragge Metals anvil?

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Can any one give me an idea about this anvil? Says it’s 125# 

What should I offer for it???

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Looks like a cast iron anvil. Do a rebound test before buying!

There is an old photo of a scrap metal company by that name in Canada. They may well have cast that anvil from scrap ... or not ... the factory looks like the Smunz string factory from the movie Mousehunt ... :)

If it "passes" the ball bearing test; offer 4+ times what you might if it fails that test.

Agreed, do a rebound test to see if it is cast iron or cast steel/hardened. If it is a good one, offer what you can comfortably afford.

I wouldn't offer more than $1.00 U.S. per pound, maybe settle for $1.50, if it passes the ring & rebound test. That being said , I have four anvils and don't particularly need it but haggling can be fun.

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Thanks for all the info/advice. 

I was hoping I was seeing a line about an inch down that meant a steel top !!

Does less than 70% rebound automatically mean cast iron? I don’t feel confident I’ll know if it is...

He’s asking 500 CAD,  which is around 375 US. 

A lot of cheap cast iron anvils are cast with that line precisely to deceive the unwary. 

$3USD/lb for cast iron (if that is what it is, as seems likely) is pricey. 

If you go there in person, bring a file and a ball bearing, or small ball peen hammer.

If the file skates on the face plate, but cuts into the body: joy. If both surfaces cut the same: door stop.

75% rebound with the hammer or bearing in a rust and paint free spot: anvil. Less than 75% rebound, or dents from the test: Anvil Shaped Object (ASO).

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Thanks again for all the help. 

Going to check this out has dropped down my list of priorities, so we'll see when it happens...

John, I take it if you'd go yourself, you'd just squeeze the horn a little harder to see if it mushroomed? 

10 hours ago, John McPherson said:

Less than 75% rebound, or dents from the test: Anvil Shaped Object (ASO).

Although I tend to agree with the above, your typical Vulcan usually comes in at the 60-65% range and many people get good service from those.  Rather than strictly rejecting 60% to 75%, I'd say that's an area where price really comes into play--Pricing should reflect that it's barely passable.  I would however, cut off on anything in the 50's or below except toward scrap metal pricing--because a cheap hunk o' scrap will probably be just as serviceable and possibly more serviceable if you shop well.

Around here, the O.Ps offering would still go for high prices, good or junk.  There are a couple of deep-pocketed "hunters" that will buy virtually everything anvil shaped for big bucks, driving good ones up over $ 10 a pound and bad ones to the $ 5+ range.  I have no clue what their goal is other than to get every anvil they can..they don't seem to be selling their hoards locally.  It has really skewed the local anvil market badly.

Assuming it's a decent anvil, that'd find casual buyers around here in the $ 350-400 USD range without much haggling or waiting.

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To follow up, that for sale post disappeared right after your post, kossy, so either it was a good anvil, or people around here are just willing to part with their money! 

We’re visiting family in the SE corner of Minn, so might see if I get to check out what the Amish have here. 

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I'm watching an auction locally... they have a 100# ASO thats right now around $3 a lb.  It has me kind of disgusted, OTOH it's pushing me toward a new Peddinghaus....  because on one hand I'm watching working-condition anvils going for gold, and I keep thinking even tho it's a huge chunk of pecunium, if I get a forged German anvil new, then I KNOW what I have...

Im just tired of chasing the elusive Hay Budden or Peter Wright that ends up having chipped edges and cracks for more than what I could get new for... am I nuts or ???

  • 6 months later...

I was trying to figure out what 'Arnalloy sml' means. I have a 95 lb anvil from Shragge - in 1980 they became Orloff metals which us still around in Winnipeg.  It has beautiful ring and bounce- definitely not cast iron. 

 

But does Arnalloy mean its made from a certain alloy or what? 

Welcome aboard MylesH glad to have you. If you'll put your general location in the header you might discover how many members live within visiting distance. 

Have you contacted the maker? Call them on the phone, emails tend to be ignored or tossed, same for the contact link of web pages. Unless you're looking to buy very few folk are willing to invest much if any time answering emails, etc. Talking to the receptionist on the phone on the other hand lets you explain a little and nobody in a company know's what's what and where, like the receptionist.

Your last question is kind of silly, did you read it before submitting your post? I always edit mine for spelling and embarrassing typos.

But to answer the question. Yes.

Frosty The Lucky.

18 hours ago, MylesH said:

Winnipeg

Is that where you are from? Like Frosty said, if you edit your profile to show your location, we won't have to guess when an answer requires knowing your location.

Welcome to ifi... Have you read this yet? READ THIS FIRST

 

Went to an antique store a while back and saw an "anvil" there. It was a piece of railroad track ground to look like an anvil, horn, hardy and all. $300. When i saw the "blacksmiths hammer" for $65 i walked out with tears from laughter. The hammer was actually a big punch.

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