boattlebot Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 actually I had an idea based on yours. I just cut a hole in my "anvil stand" and shoved it in just got more done on this peice of steel then I have in 3 hours this is great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 23 minutes ago, boattlebot said: I meant I don't have lumber so I'd have to go find some. Look for a pallet or two. Take it apart and you will get 3 ea 2x4s and a bunch of slats. Free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boattlebot Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 see the above pic. and I didn't even have to stop what I was doing. I just did it while the steel was in the fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Good idea on what you have but hammering will wreck the drawer slides and drive the drawer into the drawer below it. Find some wood and make a real anvil stand at the proper anvil height for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boattlebot Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 funny you should mention that..... that's exactly what happened..... I think I know where I can get a couple pallets but it'll have to wait till monday. (no truck tomorrow and he's not there on sundays) thought I'd atleast get a day out of this setup before it broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Look for some metal banding or strapping while you are on the hunt. Use it to hold the 2x4s in place. Landscaping timbers will work, or an old tree section will work, lumber from a construction project, or lumber from a frame used for pouring concrete. It is not the exactness of the design in this case, it is what works. You could just plant the hammer head in the ground for that matter. About half way down works fine. Expect it to grow taller after you squat down to use it for a couple of hours. (grin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boattlebot Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 my uncle should have a few pallets I can have. I'll know tomorrow. I shut the forge down for the day. but atleast I'm gettin a ok idea on what I'm doing as far as making this peice of steel longer. it was 6 inches long and now it's 8 inches long. once I figure out my anvil headaches I'll be off to the races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Firewood! Most folks that use a lot of it have an "unsplitable" stump or two around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatLiner Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Last time I had to drop our heavy work Truck off to be worked on. I asked them if they had any broken semi axles. They let me dumpster dive for free and I walked away with 5 axles 4 with the bolt plates still on and I belive it's a main shafts out of a semi transmission. If you think outside of the box you can always find something suitable to be an anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Put the plain stock back into the holes of one of the bolt plates. Makes a nice bending plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 On 6/8/2018 at 6:18 PM, FlatLiner said: Last time I had to drop our heavy work Truck off to be worked on. I asked them if they had any broken semi axles. This is what we call GTTS: Go To The Source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 "seek the axle that was broken, in Mechanics land it dwells" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 'Keep close the holey doughnuts to fend against the bossrog that bellows, "You shall NOT dive here!" Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Asking permission to scrounge/dumpster dive can be damaging to your car as many people will not only say YES; but will proceed to load you down till *your* axles and leafsprings are in danger of breaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boattlebot Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 no pallets from my friend. I'll figure something out. always been good at puzzles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Pallets were just an example of a possible scrounge source. Almost any lumber on end works a treat. If you use framing lumber try to stagger the joints so they interlock. Liquid nails comes in small squeeze tubes now so you don't need the gun and construction tubes. Liquid nails and screws, staggered joints and it'll be solid as a rock. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boattlebot Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 honestly I was just thinking drill a hole in a 4x4 and stick it in there. then take the 4x4 and stick it in the hole in the box. don't gotta worry bout the drawers now that there obilterated by my first brilliant idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 You LIKE the way it bounces on the tin shelf? Newbies, Heh. You want your anvil's face coupled as directly and rigidly to the ground as possible. Right now you're hammering on a trampoline wasting much if not most of your energy flexing the tool box rather than moving the stock. Give this a try. Lay your hammer head on it's side in the middle of a bench away from the legs and try a little forging on it. Then try forging the same size stock with the hammer head over a leg. You'll see what I mean. Personally I'd sit on the ground and smith before I used your tool box anvil stand. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boattlebot Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 I'd cut a hole in the bottom too. the 4x4 would be resting on concrete. the box would just hold it up really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latticino Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 You need to get off the computer and get over to the Genesee branch NYSDB meeting to try out setups that actually work pretty efficiently so you know what to compare to (or take a class at Arc and Flame to really accelerate your learning curve) . As regards locating bulk drops of steel in Rochester, NY, you are lucky enough to have a local source that will sell to you over the counter. Klein Steel Direct (105 McLaughlin Rd) will sell offcuts of mild steel in a huge variety of crossection for a sliding scale , depending on how much you purchase, that usually works out to around $0.65/lb or less. That is where I got my 120 lb striking anvil billet from, though they don't always have drops in that size. For starting out a length of 6" diameter x 2' long mild steel set on end and regularly refaced with a 4.5" angle grinder will work quite well for you. I've also seen free tree stumps all over Rochester from folks who have cut down their trees. Many have even been sectioned appropriately already. Keep an eye out while driving around and reference the "free" section of the local Craig's list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, boattlebot said: I'd cut a hole in the bottom too. the 4x4 would be resting on concrete. the box would just hold it up really. Would'a, should'a, could'a. Nailed it, thank you Latticino. The best you can do online is locate things and get help solving problems. Unfortunately there are so many people posting: opinions, videos, and how tos, etc. with no expertise more than a camera and connection it does more harm than good. Until a person has some real knowledge and experience you can't even sift out the good from the nonsense. Being self taught is NOT A GOOD THING, I speak from experience. You'll learn more in a couple hours with an experienced smith than you will in weeks on your own, forever if you don't get off the computer, light a fire and at least TRY the advice with which the old hands gift you. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daswulf Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Remember, Just because you have something, it does't make it the best thing to use in every case. The tool chest is there, but it is not the best thing to use for an anvil stand. There are so many better ideas that would cost little to nothing and work a million times better shown in the improvised anvil thread. I was just over looking at it and can say there are some great easy stand ideas. Save the tool chest to keep extra tools in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boattlebot Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Latticino said: You need to get off the computer and get over to the Genesee branch NYSDB it's in my calendar. I sent an email asking about this iron in the hat thing I saw but no response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 What do you need to know about it? Iron in the hat usually is done by people donating blacksmith related stuff to the club; it could be a hand forged item, or tools or materials or books...and then they are raffled off. Sometimes by individual cans in front of items for tickets; sometimes by first draw gets first choice, second draw gets second choice and so on. Some group also have trade items where everyone makes their version of an item and all who enter go home with someone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Daswulf said: Save the tool chest to keep extra tools in. Because you WILL have extra tools. Trust us on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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