JPH Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hello: Something I made from recycled/scrap materials..the only new thing used as the solder that I sweated the fittings together with.Blade is a 3 core twist/.counter-twist interupted pattern welded from an old bed frame and a old LPG tank. Edge steel is an old truck coil spring. The brass started out as old cartridge cases that I melted and made into barstock. The Cu pieces in the guard and pommel were once a Cu Buss bar. Old bone that I gave my special treatment to.. All in all it didn't turn out half bad if you ask me...Especially when you consider I am working with just one good hand at the moment..Hope thse pics turn out..JPH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy k Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Jim - Very Nice!!! - what type of steel is bed frame and LP tanks?Jim - you working with one hand behind your back would be much better than most. Edited April 13, 2015 by jeremy k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPH Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 JK: As far as the bed frame..it is made from bed frame steel...what exactly I have no idea but it behaved like a medium C 10XX series but a bit "ditier" to work..Ie, it scaled a bit more than say 1060/70 would. LPG tanks are made from a pressure vessel steel which could be A203D/E..which is a Ni bearing steel. Etched out on the bright side so I am happy.. The coils spring is probably 9260..sure acted like it. oil hardened..srping tempered..All in all..came out pretty good..JPH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'm sure glad you're posting here again Jim even your "junk yard" blades are beautiful. I didn't know about your hand, injury? Prognosis?You do know bus bar copper can contain beryllium and be a definite health hazard yes? I don't know what the threshold for dangerous is or how to tell if buss cu has a low % beryllium but if it looks even a little "yellower" than copper it's a no go for me.I believe bed frames are medium C, they sure act like it. Good to know about the LPG tanks I think I'll collect a couple.Thanks for the pics, even if they do draw me toward the dark side. <grin>Frosty the Lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPH Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 Frosty:I have a tumor growing merrily on it's way on my right hand between my thumb and fore-finger that is being removed in the next little bit once the VA decides to do something about this...Once they get in and see what is what they will be able to tell me how long I will be down for... Being that I make my living with my hands..the less time down the better for us...JPH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I seem to recall that Alexander Weygers said something to the effect that bed frames were made from rerolled rail road rails. I know that the one that I found and forged to his instruction made an acceptable to me large V gouge. For what it is worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrin_radd Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Wow man that is just outstanding. Thanks for posting the write up on it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caotropheus Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Old bone that I gave my special treatment to Very nice sword Master JPH. And if I may kindly ask and you're willing to share, what is this "special treatment to bone"? Is is a treatment similar to what you describe in your books? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) I have mainly seen bedframes listed as similar to Cor-10. Hmmmm, an email to a bedframe manufacturer may be in order.Propane tank, as in the large bulk ones, or the BBQ size? Great work as always Jim. Edited May 16, 2015 by BIGGUNDOCTOR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Then you get the issues of what were they using are each point over the last 150 years... I know a lot of the old thin ones seem to be of better steel than some of the modern thicker ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Let's just hope that the bedframe makers guild has very strict covenants regarding the alloy to be used in order to prevent the monsters that live under them from escaping. This company made it real easy to find out, and it backs up the earlier statement about railroad rail. They are in Texas.http://www.wsilverproducts.com . I have inquiries into a few other older manufacturers, so we'll see what they say in the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Hmm I'm located just outside of El Paso TX, I wonder what they do with the short end pieces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I figure they are casting billets, then rolling them out, so there wouldn't be any short ends. Now if you cruised on over there, and made some friends you may be able to score some short bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I figure they are casting billets, then rolling them out, so there wouldn't be any short ends. Now if you cruised on over there, and made some friends you may be able to score some short bits.Nope, the slide show on the main page shows cut pieces of rail heating in the furnace for the rolling mill.No wonder they're called bed RAILS. Cool, better steel than I thought.Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Jones Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Stunning sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Rolling old rail would be problematic in my view, as in how to get a rail shape into an angle. Just smooshing it would result in several cold shuts. Are they splitting it? I like how they call it a fournace...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianinsa Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Looks fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Sheffield T posts are made of recycled (up around Tulsa, they make spikes as well) rail, the vidio i saw showed the rail head and the flange being split from the web (hot) and to three different lines from there, one would think that the bed rails were handled in the same way. I snatch up bed frames all the time, dad hates the stuff as it tends to be hard to drill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPH Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 I have mainly seen bedframes listed as similar to Cor-10. Hmmmm, an email to a bedframe manufacturer may be in order.Propane tank, as in the large bulk ones, or the BBQ size? Great work as always Jim.The LPG tanks..the what 5 gallon (?) ones...cut them into strips and you are pretty much good to go.. On the frames..I get them as I seer them and then I do a hardening test on each one and go from there...I will say that overall the steel used in these seems toi be a bit "dirtier" than most steels..Ie, it scales a bit on the heavier end... JPH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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