Zarc Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Hello my name is zarcon. I'm looking for a blacksmith who's wanting an apprentice. I'm prepared to go anywhere in the country and potentuly out of the country. I've done a corce on matalsmithing at plumpton. If you want anymore detailas, cv and the like im more than willing to send it out. ^^ Thank you for your time. Edited April 16, 2009 by Zarc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgemaster Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Ah,,, and where would "hove" be located. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarc Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Hove is located near brighton, in southern england, right on the coast. Edited April 16, 2009 by Zarc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Zarc; please look over your post carefully. Now would you hire someone who can't spell, use capital letters or clearly indicate their location? Could you expect them to read a blueprint or take accurate details from a customer? I strongly suggest you edit your post and make it into something an English Teacher would save as an example for others---a good example that is! Of course this is only if you are really interested in finding such a situation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarc Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) sorry about that. Spelling and grammer is not my best feild of expertese, but i can certinly read. Thank you for pointing that out ill do better to correct myself in the future. Edited April 16, 2009 by Zarc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Sells Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 In the modern world, having a business is more than just knowing how to swing a hammer. Grammar, diction, blue print reading and drawing, attention to details, and math skills are just as important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Using your real name on applications is very helpful as well. People looking for help are seldom looking for help forging dwarven axes or elvin swords. Not that this is a job application but if you're looking for something it really pays to say it correctly every time. Your future boss might be reading your post right now and you want to make a good impression. Otherwise why bother posting here at all? Besides, a well educated literate person can demand better wages from the beginning because the better the education the more likely you can find a better job if it comes up meaning they'll need to pay you better to keep you. Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Thompson Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Zarc, you may be able to understand what you have written but I certainly can't. For example, what does 'seethed' mean? Thomas, Frosty and Steve have all taken the time to give you hints as to how to apply for work; your reply/apology contains as many errors as your original post. Poor English is relatively easy to cure, poor manners less so. Edited April 16, 2009 by Sam Thompson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonjic Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hey Zarc, The guys are right about the presentation etc, but im fully aware that some of the most talented, artistic, practical folks arent allways 100% with more vocational subjects, anyhoo, I digress.... Your first port of call should be the British Artist Blacksmiths Association - you can place a ad in the quarterly magazine, or give them a bell, they are all nice people, and know who is busy & looking for extra hands, good luck with the hunt! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Thompson Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 You could also talk to the Blacksmith dept at Hereford College. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveW Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hello Zarc You don't say how old you are, but as you are looking for an apprenticeship I imagine you're quit young still. You may find you are able to get yourself on a collage course or the Hereford course already mentioned, either way good luck with it. I'm trying to find some work in the forge myself at the moment and know how hard it is, but with some determination and a good dollop of luck good things may happen. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nett Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I suggest you return to Plumpton to earn your Blacksmithing and Metalworking National Diploma. In the course of the two years program you will be introduced to many aspects of the industry and instructed how to present yourself, and what you have to offer, to potential employers in a professional manor. This course is designed for those wishing to extend their basic knowledge in blacksmithing and metalwork. It is based around six core units and twelve specialist unit areas, which include six core units - small business operations, drawing practice for blacksmithing and metalworking, forging techniques, industry experience. The twelve specialist units from the following list forge practice, blacksmithing processes, blacksmithing skills, business planning, design principles, small scale design, horseshoe production and large scale working large scale design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Hale Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I learn something here everyday And now I know where Hove is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sask Mark Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 http://www.iforgeiron.com/forum/f66/apprentice-wanted-9323/ I don't know if this position is still available or not. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrynjr Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I don't think I've seen anyone else post this yet. WELCOME TO IFI, glad to have you here. A great place to learn and share blacksmithing info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted T Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) Zarc I welcome you to “I Forge Iron” weather you can spell, punctuate, or have any other academic issues that seemed to side track your request. I believe you stated; Hello my name is zarcon. I'm looking for a blacksmith who's wanting an apprentice. My answer is: I don’t know of any blacksmiths who are hiring or wants an apprentice at this time. Zarc, some of the very finest Blacksmiths I have known in my life time could not read or write at all. But they spoke with their great craftsmanship which resulted in a great work product which said it all. BUT, we live in a different time now. MY question at this time is, and I believe what all of the other Blacksmiths are expressing is; Just how far could have they gone had they had a sound formal education that supported their business decisions and growth opportunities? The lack of a sound education may also result in safety issues down the road. As many others have pointed out, you will be able to open up doors and progress much quicker if you show that you have a sound education in the background that supports your skills. Just in case you have a problem with the same issues I have been haunted by all of my life, I will expose some of my many weaknesses to you, hoping it may encourage you to keep trying. (Note of interest: I have won an academic scholarship to a university during my life time). Although I had planned on not responding to the site much, your post gained my attention. My plan was to enjoy reading the great insights of the people found here as they banter issues back and forth. But your post gained my attention. My Issue: I cannot spell nor do simple math. I have several areas of learning disabilities that have been a monkey on my back all of my life. Because of the disabilities, I have had to avoid normal avenues of opportunities that others take for granite. I have also been shunned and mocked by many people who assume life deals out the cards equal. That is one reason I have backed off of posting on this site. When we receive sound or sight through our eyes or ears, it must be translated into electrical nerve impulses. When there is a problem with our nerve wiring system the impulses received may be distorted. When information is translated into nerve impulses, or runs into an area that is not wired correctly, the information may come out backwards or mixed up. For an example: I may hear some words, but I may not be able to repeat them. This has resulted in problems with reading, spelling and simple math. Even though I have gave it my best to learn over the past 69 years, it is still an issue. In spite of my issues, I have been successfully employed as an Industrial Blacksmith and have ran my own shops respectably enough to help raise my family on and off for well over 50 years. I have been yelled at as though I was deaf, and punished for not catching onto concepts. But, in these modern days they are able to diagnose and help people with this kind of a problem. It is worth it to me to expose just some of my weaknesses (which I have many) if this information may help you in your future. I wish you the very best (don’t give up, no matter what). Ted T. Edited April 17, 2009 by Ted T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fe-Wood Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Zarcon- I suffer from what Ted T. suffers from. I believe they call it dyslexia (sp)?. I spend way to much time rewriting my posts so the spelling and puntuation is the best I can do without being obsesive. Its not always perfect but at least I've tried. If I read your post, I would think this is a person who won't take the time to do it right. Therefore, I wouldn't consider hiring them without more examples of there work and ability to communicate. Zarcon, You have received some harsh critisism here, I hope you use it for what its ment to be...Helpful!!! Good luck to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarc Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) right well for a start this is my real name. if you want the story behind it my dad had dyslexia and missspelt what he was going to write on the birth certificate. I know im not the best wirter in the woruld, but i know how to read blue prints, do maths, dawing and attention to detail. seethe (s) intr.v. seethed, seeth Edited April 17, 2009 by Zarc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanchie76 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 hey Zarc i too suffer from a spelling problem and im proud of you for not letting it hold you back in life. remember bud i lot of people are quick to judge you before they even know you, be strong and try not to get angry at them they were trying to help you in their own way. one of the saying that i live by is "let your actions show people the man you are". keep your head up bud and i hope you find a blacksmith soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nts Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Zarc, if you're ever looking to send in an application to a possible future employer, have someone you know look it over. If need be, I'd be glad to look it over. Anyway, got to run right now, just realized I'm late to school. Good luck. -Collin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Leppo Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I, too, have a spelling problem. I usually know exactly what I want to say, but I can’t always spell it. But you wouldn’t find too many errors in my posts (a few). I either type my post into MS Word (you can use any word processor), or type them in the message window and cut-paste to word; let the SPELL CHECKER help me, and then cut-paste back into the forum. If you are online, I guess you have a computer, and I think most come with some sort of typing aid. This is not infallible, but it catches a lot, takes a few seconds. Help, maybe, to those who have these troubles, and think it’s important. I sleep better!) Thankfully, for Mr. Power’s sake, at least you gave your location! (GRIN) Sorry for the hijack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkle spike Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 If you look at the top of the window that you type in there is an "ABC" with a checkmark below it, that is "spellcheck". You have to download a spell checker, but if you need it. Part of what you are seeing is the new written language for "texting", my 16 year old can't spell worth a darn, but he can text like a demon. Another trick I use is to re-read before you post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) For all out there like me, the spell checker may work, but is it right? 'Spell Checker Blues' Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rarely ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect in it's weigh My chequer tolled me sew. Anon Some of our best practical students were dyslexic, just try your best and good luck with the search, and yes , I am afraid the apprentice vacancy has been filled. If you would like to come on one of our courses you would be welcome. see www.blacksmithsguild.com Edited April 17, 2009 by John B spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Zarc; we've been trying to help you on how to present yourself to a possible employer. Most of us have had to do this a number of times over the decades we have been working and have been giving you the benefit of our experience. Note that we are taking *our* time and not so great typing skills to answer you; far easier to just ignore you. Also; if this is too much criticism, you may not be ready to work in a shop---I remember getting really reamed out a couple of times in my early working years! I wore a suit and tie last time I interviewed, the fellow who interviewed me and who was to become my boss' boss was wearing sandals, ragged shirt and shorts. Been working here 5 years so far; pay is a bit under industry standard but the informal working conditions were well work a couple of k$ to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 My apologies Zarc. I failed to welcome you as I do everyone else and made a bad assumption regarding your name. You aren't one of the myriad teen age boys with a fantasy game idea of what a blacksmith does. Welcome aboard Zarc, glad to have you. Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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