a good place to pickup some stock is in snohomish called whitesides they are on highway 9 and are in clearview ...(basically a spot in the road heading to snohomish) tell um Eric the blacksmith sent you (it wont help on price but they probably remember me). i am up in that neiborhood every year before the Puyallup fair ... good luck and you might want to join the nwba ... found um to be most helpful.