Frankjdm Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I i'm new in this forum and just want to try tomake knife for fun.I buy an old anvil and need help to know what brand it is and how it weight? And how it can be restore ? I am french so i dont write very well in english sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the iron dwarf Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 the anvil has lost most of the hard plate from the table, below it is softer wrought iron, it will be difficult to restore but you can use the bick / horn and the hardy hole and pritchel. make a hardy tool from a block of hard steel with a square peg welded on to fit the hardy hole and that can be your new flat and hard table. I would use a piece of fork lift fork and drill about 25% of the way through it with a large drill and set the peg in there then weld it and grind it flush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Well that anvil is missing a lot of it's hardened face. I would suggest a massive application of the Robb Gunther method of anvil repair which here in the USA would probably cost more than what I would pay for such an anvil. It is an older style where the face was welded up from separate pieces of high carbon steel one of which is missing, one of which is partially missing and worn very thin and the rest almost worn out too. The weight stamp is most likely in CWT so pounds = leftmost number x 112 + middle number x 28 (and can only be 0-3 as it is quarter CWT) + residual pounds (and can only be 0-27) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankjdm Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Thanks, so is weight 331 lbs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 if that doesn't seem reasonable then it might be marked in straight pounds and so most likely be an American anvil. Where was it found? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankjdm Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 I buy it on kijiji, Canada! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wroughton Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 If that thing only had an hour meter onboard. They kept using it long after it started falling apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankjdm Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 I searched, and it could be an m and h Armitage mousehole forge 1854-1875 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 The dots between the weight stamps and general configuration makes me agree. However as there have been several hundred anvil manufacturers in the UK over the last couple of centuries and many of them learned to make anvils by working in a factory already making anvils their anvils tend to look a lot like the ones they learned on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankjdm Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 Ok, I read about the Robb gunther method and if it is the best way to do it, I will go to as welder shop and demand a estimate, and after that, I imagine I go to a machine shop to reface the weld? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-1ToolSteel Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I know that if I took an anvil to *my* local machine/fab shop and told him to use the Rob Gunther method, he would say "Oh, don't worry. I've done stuff like this before." That would be an indication that he *doesn't* know how to repair anvils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 IF you MUST have an anvil that looks brand new BUY A BRAND NEW ANVIL---it will be cheaper! There are a number of companies that sell new anvils, generally cast steel and well heat treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Frank: All you're going to get demanding anything at a welding shop is shown the door. Think about it a little. YOU don't know what to do but you're going to DEMAND professionals do it your way? Just buy a new anvil, all you're going to do is ruin that one and it's in FINE shape. You are entirely too new to the craft to know what you need and believe me what you want is something else entirely. Bragging rights don't count in a real shop. And some sort of trophy brag anvil looking object is what you'll make of that one. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Frosty said: Frank: All you're going to get demanding anything at a welding shop is shown the door. Think about it a little. YOU don't know what to do but you're going to DEMAND professionals do it your way? I totally agree, but lets keep in mind, before we get to hard on him, that there is a bit of a language barrier here. he said he don't talk our lingo to good, so it is likely that by "demand" he meant "request". Is that right, Frank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 32 minutes ago, Tubalcain2 said: I totally agree, but lets keep in mind, before we get to hard on him, that there is a bit of a language barrier here. he said he don't talk our lingo to good, so it is likely that by "demand" he meant "request". Is that right, Frank? Yes, "demander" is French for "to ask". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Translation can be tricky, the words for coal and charcoal are the same in at least 2 languages I know of. Translating them takes some knowledge of the context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubalcain2 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 2 hours ago, JHCC said: Yes, "demander" is French for "to ask". Thanks for the clarification, John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankjdm Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Yes sorry, for the poor English, I don't know French forum for this,thanks for all your response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Don't apologize for your English...your discussion is easy to follow. Thanks to the guys here who speak some French to help guide US along.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Je vous en prie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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