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Has anyone here achieved a good blued mirror finish?  And if so can you explain how you did it? 

In my mind at least it's the perfect finish for one of my blades, but my only attempt so far was a miserable failure.  After getting the mirror finish and wiping the blade down well with acetone then allowing it to dry I applied some cold bluing, but it didn't look good at all.  I ended up having to go back to 600 grit and start the finish process again to remove the traces of bluing that remained.  If any of you have a method that produces a good blued mirror finish I'm all ears (or eyes I guess).

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I saw a pretty great mirrior blued finish on a blade but unfortunately i beleive it would have made the blade softer than is ideal. Tony Swaton did a version of the sword sting from the lord of the rings movie where one side was a mirror polish and the other side was blue like the sword would normally look. To achieve this he polished up the sword then put it into his heat treat oven until the entire blade achieved that blue colour then polished off one side back to normal. Not sure if that helps or not but you can google   Man at Arms - Sting  and watch the video for your self. Good Luck

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Blue temper colors would definitely result in softer steel than I want for the blade, but the visual effect is good.

20 hours ago, Steve Sells said:

cold blu is for touch ups at best, try hot bluing.

Looks like a lot of the hot blue salts are used at 500+ degrees F.  I don't want to change the temper with bluing and I'd also want to make sure this gives the desired result before spending the time and money on it.  Is this something you have done and can recommend a specific product/process or were you offering a suggestion for the next thing to try?

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Brownell's is one I was looking at.  Specifically the Nitreblue.  The Oxynate 7 didn't give a temperature in the description, and they charge a dollar for the instructions, so I'll have to dig a little deeper.

I don't like to farm out anything in my blade making, but I may check with a local gunsmith and see if I can get them to do one for me before pursuing this any further on my own.

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If I get that far along.  It looks like multiple tanks are needed, a good way to keep the temperature where it needs to be, proper PPE, etc. to safely and successfully do hot bluing.  Right now I don't have the spare space or funds to set that up properly.  I've seen several home brew recipes as well, but experimenting with hot caustic materials isn't what I want to do.  If one of the local gunsmiths has a setup and is willing I think I'll see if I can watch someone who knows what they are doing before I plunge in head first.

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I used Brownell's OxyphoBlue on one blade for sure, for my young lad.  As a cold blue, it's a touchup, but I kept heating it in boiling salt water each application and polishing with steel wool.  Ten applications, at least.

For old tools I've restored, I've used a phosphoric acid etch also, then regular cold blue to (steel hot as you can stand) in multiple applications to get the tint and consistency to suit.  

Hardware store phosphoric, muriatic and cider vinegar are my goto store-bought etchants.  They sometimes yield quite different results on a given piece of steel, even more so with different alloys.  Home leached tannic sometimes works when nothing else does.  It always seems to turn into a chemistry experiment.....

Go outside, use PPE & stay upwind.

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When we hot blued with Brownell's salts it was 291*F. 

Du Lite has some nice features over Brownell's salts

With any of these you do not want to use a buffing wheel, hand polish only. The buffing wheel  seals the pores on the surface which prevents the bluing from getting a good bite. Hand sanding will leave them open. When we did guns we only went to a 230 grit finish for best durability. 

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Thanks to everyone for your responses.  It sounds like hot bluing would be the way to go, and at least some of those options would  not ruin the temper. For now that option will have to wait for me since I don't have the space to set it up right.  Thanks again though.

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