T.J.watts Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Getting tired of trying to find a good anvil so I just started to build one. So far its about 100lb. Its 4" wide and 24" long. The body is two pieces of 2" 50k and the horn is 3" 1018. I'll post more pics when its done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everything Mac Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 That'll work, good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 You probably want a much thinner heel. It sort of looks like you built it without understanding the "why" an anvil is shaped the way it is. So many home built anvils have no heel as it isn't needed for the users tasks; or it is thinner so it can be used. I have a 500#+ Fisher with a massive heel that is pretty much useless so right beside it I have a 93# A&H with a long thin heel so I can use it when I need a heel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Ivan Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 You probably want a much thinner heel. It sort of looks like you built it without understanding the "why" an anvil is shaped the way it is. So many home built anvils have no heel as it isn't needed for the users tasks; or it is thinner so it can be used. I have a 500#+ Fisher with a massive heel that is pretty much useless so right beside it I have a 93# A&H with a long thin heel so I can use it when I need a heel A thin heel on an anvil made from 1018 would likely bend/sag fairly quickly. IMHO I think the OP did a fine job keeping in mind the material used. I do however agree that not bothering to shape the heel may have been beneficial for what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsmith Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 The horn is neat! reminds me of a medieval slipper :D I applaud your efforts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arftist Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Good plan using plates side by side. My only comment is that you could have milled half of the hardy hole in each plate and saved some effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 The heel will be longer as well as thinner. That will be determined by the thickness of the top plate when its added. The reason I didn't mill the hardy yet is that the top plate will be 100% when welded later. The whole projects has just been plan as I go cause I had a little down time. Everything is just drop that I had at work but I'll refine everything later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjh66 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 The heel will be longer as well as thinner. That will be determined by the thickness of the top plate when its added. The reason I didn't mill the hardy yet is that the top plate will be 100% when welded later. The whole projects has just been plan as I go cause I had a little down time. Everything is just drop that I had at work but I'll refine everything later. Hi TJ what I do for my hadie hole is to fabricate it from plate to form the square hole, then machine the outside of it to suit a drill size that I use to drill through the anvil so it is a hammer in fit, prep & weld top & bottom. I have fabricated all of my anvils & they are great even if I say so my self. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Special Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 How's the ring? Deafening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 It has a nice ring so far not to loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Thanks for the input about the hardy.I might try that it'll say me a lot of filing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 What are you using for the face, not 1018 I hope. It's looking very nice so far. Keep us posted please. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Charles has some heavy gauge rail track. We were talking about using the bottom flange for the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Rail is nominally 1085 low alloy steel. The trick will be getting a full penetration weld without deforming it. If it works right it'll make a sweet anvil face but it will have a tendency to ship if not drawn down probably into the purple, almost blue. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Ivan you are right in that a heel too thick to do much forging on won't get hammered down much; but why go to the trouble of making one if you don't want to use it? My A&H is made from very soft wrought iron with a quite thin steel plate on it and doesn't show any sagging after 100+ years of use---I think he can get away with a thinner heel out of 1018. The taper on the rail base would help with the full penetration weld. I am partial to forklift tine myself though it will be a tad thick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 TJ is a special process welder and fabricator for the oil and gas industry. I've been impressed as .... With his skill and tenacity. I think wheel have to scrounge up some 250 gallon totes for the quench. When he gets that far. I'm trying to talk him in to double horsing hid project... But alas he is hardheaded. He aut to fit in here just fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Even a lake won't make for a good quench as you need high pressure water stream to get through the steam jacket that forms when that much hot steel is dumped into water. Charles McRaven mentions as using the high pressure hose from the local volunteer fire department as the water source directed against the face. Traditionally anvil makers used an elevated tank and flume system to quench and the larger the anvil the softer the face tended to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 Frosty the only way I have thought of to keep the face flat after welding is to heat and form the face to a concave shape before hand, then milling the face to a perfect flat. Yes Charles I am still thinking about the double horn :D. that's probably what ill do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 I need some help gentleman I'm debating about what steel to top this monster with. I'm thinking about an air hardening type but thought I would get some advise before deciding.I'm trying to find a way around the quench process of heavy gauge rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Air hardening just doesn't "quench" fast enough in air with a couple of hundred pounds of mass. A quench plate might do it but that gets very R&D O1 quenches in water in larger sections. How about a trash pump and a pond? I bet we can rig a scaffolding to get the water high enough for a bit of gravity assist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The rail will do fine, and may prove less problematic than actual tool steels that can crack when water hardened. See if your local FD, or volunteers can spray it down for you. They can use it for training. Another option would be to use a pressure washer. Remember, you want the face TOUGH, not hard since hard chips easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 I tend to worry and over think things I've never done before especially when I've been working on something this long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 just an update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 couldn't add the picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hard enough, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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