Dale M. Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Actually this whole thread seems sort moot because of the responses of this message thread... http://www.iforgeiron.com/topic/33239-entry-level-blacksmith-accreditation/ Do what you do, peer review is only for your person satisfaction and means nothing in real world... Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mefecit Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Hi: I have been working as a metalsmith for 34 years now, and can say that the hardest work is the work you are not used to doing, so try a different type of work, bigger , small , different metal , whatever you have not done before. That said , try making one of these . Daniel Tokar The Willow Forge Shepherdstown WV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wroughton Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Howdy Daniel, Great work and detail. Nice to see mixed metal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mefecit Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Hi: Thanks I tell people I don't run a shop , but 50 different shops , each for one week out of the year. The ball is hollow , made from about 4 feet of 3/16" round stock. The helmet guard is mostly one 1/4"x 1 bar punched and split, no welds. The ladle is mild steel and sterling silver. I posted these as work that could be done with out much tooling. I get a lot of oddball jobs and have made lots of strange tools but it is fun to see what you can do with just a handful of common tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikecopXXX Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 meficit, i really like that helmet. and jim coke please tell me how to make a twist that's flat on the bottom and fully formed on the top? hitting it with a wood mallet? thx mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Coke Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Greetings Bike, To answer your question on the candle holder... The impressions and the twist was done prior to splitting... Needless to say it was not split with a chisel . A close eye and a good portaban.. Try it Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everything Mac Posted June 12, 2013 Author Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hi guys. I'm starting at suggestion one. This challenge was indeed excellent fun. Though the hardest part was definitely the chest itself. I made a video of it all. I started with a beaten up pallet. The draw knife is one I forged myself for another project. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-2-mt5LKmPc As ever I'd appreciate constructive criticism. Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorsHammer82 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'd like to see a treasure chest, where you actually rivit straps over the curved top and build corners and everything from scratch from the rivits, to the corners, to the straps to the latch/lock and hinges. as for the video, The project is cool, the video itself could use some work. A lot of off center action, and out of shot action. I can't critique the smithing as I don't know enough yet to voice my opinions on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judson Yaggy Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 As a test of one's skills I'd suggest trying to make a living. In the spirit of the original question tongs are a good project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I'd like to see a treasure chest, where you actually rivit straps over the curved top and build corners and everything from scratch from the rivits, to the corners, to the straps to the latch/lock and hinges. Do you mean like this one? Made by one of our members, Keith Mahoney, (who also happens to be secretary to the UK's National Blacksmiths Competition Committee) It was seen at various UK shows on the NBCC circuit in 2012 (for details of this years shows go to www.blacksmithscompetition.co.uk and see similar quality items on display at them) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R. Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I've been fascinated with the process used in 18th century to produce rifle barrels. Have not got one completed yet but we have a skelp welded up out of old buggy tires ready to begin welding into a tube. Of course this is not a one man project. I'm fortunate to have a good friend with a well equipped shop who is willing to offer his shop and experience for this project. It sure has been fun so far. This to me seems quite a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R. Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Here is a fairly basic chest I made. It is made form old packing lumber I hand planed. Hand cut dovetails. I made the hardware and some of the nails, the rest were antique nails recycled from an old cider press. I didn't make the lock, someday? I use it for a shooting box for my flintlock rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everything Mac Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Excellent David. Far better than my attempt! I'd sure appreciate some more feedback on the video guys. I know I've still got a lot to learn. Judson, that's precisely the point isn't it? I'd love to be able to make a living from it but as you can quite clearly see I'm a long way off from that yet. As I see it the only way to improve is through repetition and setting myself challenges. Next on the list is a nicer set of bolt tongs. Cheers Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddtodd Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 When I was a maintenance mechanic at a factory, I used my lunch breaks and a half hour after work every day to make a youth air rifle for my son. I copied a chinese one my friend had. Well, I didn't copy it, I just used it to figure out how they work. The barrel was off an ancient .22 that I didn't consider safe to shoot anymore. It's 20 years old now and I just rebuilt it for my 12 year old. I purposely made it with a big enough piston and strong enough spring to go hunting with. So my 12 year old has the only youth rifle in the world big enough for rabbits and squirrel. It will punch a hole clear thru 1/2 in ply. and almost thru 3/4 pine. lol It's a little rusty because I had to use cold blue but it's still just as accurate and powerful. The scope dovetails were the hardest part. milling a 3/8 dovetail on a round tube was really difficult! Now I want to get as good with blacksmithing as I used to be with machine tools. I'll get there one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorsHammer82 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 Do you mean like this one? Made by one of our members, Keith Mahoney, (who also happens to be secretary to the UK's National Blacksmiths Competition Committee) It was seen at various UK shows on the NBCC circuit in 2012 (for details of this years shows go to www.blacksmithscompetition.co.uk and see similar quality items on display at them)Chest by Keith Mahoney 1.jpg Chest by Keith Mahoney (1).jpg Chest by Keith Mahoney (2).jpg Chest by Keith Mahoney (3).jpg Yes and no, Yes as in the straping and details, no as it it doesn't incorporate the wood part of the project. My long term goal is to make two chests for my boys to serve as toy chests in their youth and keepsake/storage chest when they get older. Here is a fairly basic chest I made. It is made form old packing lumber I hand planed. Hand cut dovetails. I made the hardware and some of the nails, the rest were antique nails recycled from an old cider press. I didn't make the lock, someday? I use it for a shooting box for my flintlock rifles. Thats beautiful simplicity right there. and almost exactly what I'm looking to do. I'm torn on the curved top as the chests I want to make could make really cool coffee tables if I make them right... HMMMMM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everything Mac Posted June 14, 2013 Author Share Posted June 14, 2013 Yes and no, Yes as in the straping and details, no as it it doesn't incorporate the wood part of the project. My long term goal is to make two chests for my boys to serve as toy chests in their youth and keepsake/storage chest when they get older. Thats beautiful simplicity right there. and almost exactly what I'm looking to do. I'm torn on the curved top as the chests I want to make could make really cool coffee tables if I make them right... HMMMMM I'd love to see your designs for that? Cool idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorsHammer82 Posted June 14, 2013 Share Posted June 14, 2013 I'd love to see your designs for that? Cool idea! Just an image in my head right now. I've got a long way to go before it comes to fruision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avadon Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 The best test of one skills are going to be in the making of something you don't see anyone else doing. That is to say the best test will be to do something you've never done before and requires a lot from you and additionally won't readily give to outside help. ;) Those are always the hardest projects. But without tackling something hugely difficult I like the ideas so far. The chest is a great idea as mentioned. Shackles, gates, hinges, trellis', and my personal favorite roses. A lot of smiths can make a rose, but making one that looks really good takes a lot of patience and skill. -And you can put a rose on virtually anything from a candle holder to a gate and it will greatly add to the quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avadon Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Hi: I have been working as a metalsmith for 34 years now, and can say that the hardest work is the work you are not used to doing, so try a different type of work, bigger , small , different metal , whatever you have not done before. That said , try making one of these . Daniel Tokar The Willow Forge Shepherdstown WV What is that blue thing!? That looks really cool. Anytime I see really nice color my eyes open up. I'm probably part squirrel. Check out this treasure box I made years ago.. looks like it should be next to your blue sphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avadon Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Do you mean like this one? Made by one of our members, Keith Mahoney, (who also happens to be secretary to the UK's National Blacksmiths Competition Committee) It was seen at various UK shows on the NBCC circuit in 2012 (for details of this years shows go to www.blacksmithscompetition.co.uk and see similar quality items on display at them)Chest by Keith Mahoney 1.jpg Chest by Keith Mahoney (1).jpg Chest by Keith Mahoney (2).jpg Chest by Keith Mahoney (3).jpg That thing looks incredibly heavy and stout. I imagine if you drop it on your foot it is game over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yves Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Here is a fairly basic chest I made. It is made form old packing lumber I hand planed. Hand cut dovetails. I made the hardware and some of the nails, the rest were antique nails recycled from an old cider press. I didn't make the lock, someday? I use it for a shooting box for my flintlock rifles. Your pic #4 : a very elegant solution. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R. Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Here's a pretty simple chest I made out of old packing crate pine. I hand planed the rough lumber and made the moldings with old wooden hand planes. Hand cut dovetails in the corners. I made the hardware and some of the nails. Some of the nails were antique hand forged nails from an old cider press I repaired. Not very elaborate but some different skills involved for beginner like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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