humphreymachine Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Nice anvil! I guess the “cast steel” refers to the top plate. Has this stamping been seen on other Fisher anvils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I've got a 50 lb Fisher dated roughly 1890-1892 off the top of my head. If I can locate the small camera, I'll dump the picts I took of it the other week for you here when I get the chance. College at Bryn Athyn has a couple of large Fishers as well as a tiny bench anvil in their blacksmithing studio. Warren of Iron Studio LTD, who just joined here not long ago, can probably get you the sizes and quantities since he does the teaching there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas9 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 1919 230# and a 1894 or 93 84# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Nice anvil! I guess the “cast steel” refers to the top plate. Has this stamping been seen on other Fisher anvils? "Cast Steel" is stamped into a few of the early (1850's) Fisher anvils that I have, and it is in several that friends have. Yes, it does refer to the top plate, not the whole anvil. Early Fisher anvils used "Jasper Tool Steel", which I believe was imported from England for the top plate. One of the mysteries left out there: I have never found out who and where the horn steel plate were made. There are no workers left from the Crossley era who might have known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divermike Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I am thinking of selling my 300 lber, if you are in the market, message me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humphreymachine Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Were the horn steel plates ground heavily to shape after casting or completely/mostly pre shaped? I’m guessing they were pre shaped but how? In power hammer or power press dies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 Were the horn steel plates ground heavily to shape after casting or completely/mostly pre shaped? I’m guessing they were pre shaped but how? In power hammer or power press dies? They were cast steel. I have some of the patterns that were used, but I have never found any record of who or where they were cast. I have many that were never used. Come and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humphreymachine Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I see – they really were “Cast Steel” rather than ‘cast steel’-- the generic term for some tool steels of the era which would have been forged to shape. Were the main top plates actually cast to shape or sheared from cast steel plate? Will make it there at some point. Can’t wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 I see – they really were “Cast Steel” rather than ‘cast steel’-- the generic term for some tool steels of the era which would have been forged to shape. Were the main top plates actually cast to shape or sheared from cast steel plate? Will make it there at some point. Can’t wait! The flat top plates were cut from a 0-1 water hardening type of steel. They were not cast as the horn steel was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quint Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Man there are two beauties on the flea bay right now. Got the fisher jealous thing going on lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaughnT Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I just saw that 500-pounder on the bay. Sadder than sad that I'm dead broke or she'd be coming down south for a long visit!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 I just saw that 500-pounder on the bay. Sadder than sad that I'm dead broke or she'd be coming down south for a long visit!! You can visit it anytime in NJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakesshop Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 @ Joshua, did you grab the 300#'r too? I saw they both (and others from the same guy) got pulled. Way to far for me to even contemplate the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaughnT Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 You can visit it anytime in NJ. Lucky sod! She was certainly the best looking 500 I've ever seen. Almost as-new. Very glad to know she's going to a good home where she'll be loved and cared for. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Only the 500 came home. The 300 was not as good as what I have, and I stay away from HB anvils. My FISHER disease is bad enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cretedog Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Now you've given me an excuse to come see your museum, NJ.! Seller offered to strap that big boy to a pallet and send it up here to the frozen tundra. Glad it went to another good home (but I would have enjoyed beating upon it ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Now you've given me an excuse to come see your museum, NJ.! Seller offered to strap that big boy to a pallet and send it up here to the frozen tundra. Glad it went to another good home (but I would have enjoyed beating upon it ;) ) If you are coming to the ABANA event in August, plan to stop here afterwards. I am only about a two hour drive north of there(a short drive for those of you in the West). Even if you are not coming then, plan a trip in someday. No one who has ever been here has not been overwhelmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakesshop Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Glad you nabbed that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfudd Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hi Joshua- I purchased this 400lb fisher from Fred Moore (See the thread the largest anvil collection) today. It wasn't as good a deal as you got that 500lber I'm sure but not bad. It has an excellent face and horn but the only trouble is that it apparently laid in an area where much moisture got to the side with the insignia and to the back with the date. I can barely make out the date, I think its 1932. It has no lugs. If you need any other info please holler. BTW Fred is selling many of his anvils, all of his power hammers( Matchless antiques have already bought most) and I think most if not all of his cones plus much of the other non- anvil stuff. He is keeping the rarer anvils and the bigger anvils. You should probably contact him for info on the remaining Fisher anvils, he has at least a dozen, many over 350lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quint Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Thats a nice lookin anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hi Joshua- I purchased this 400lb fisher from Fred Moore (See the thread the largest anvil collection) today. It wasn't as good a deal as you got that 500lber I'm sure but not bad. It has an excellent face and horn but the only trouble is that it apparently laid in an area where much moisture got to the side with the insignia and to the back with the date. I can barely make out the date, I think its 1932. It has no lugs. If you need any other info please holler. BTW Fred is selling many of his anvils, all of his power hammers( Matchless antiques have already bought most) and I think most if not all of his cones plus much of the other non- anvil stuff. He is keeping the rarer anvils and the bigger anvils. You should probably contact him for info on the remaining Fisher anvils, he has at least a dozen, many over 350lbs. Nice Fisher. At least the corrosion is not where it matters. Only a few 400 lb Fishers had lugs. Most did not. And I agree is is 193x. I have looked at the videos of the collection. I doubt there is anything there that I seek. And it is almost 3000 miles away! I am now only looking for the custom and rare model Fishers. I have the rest....Not that I would not mind seeing his collection some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfudd Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fred probably wouldn't sell his rarer Fishers(right now) but he does have several that you might be able to use the info from. One (500lber) has the cutout on the side for a Chambersberg blacker hammer and one has a special groove built under the tail for a swage or something similar. He does have quite a few above 400lbs up to 700lbs I think. He told me he is getting old and wants to cut down the number of anvils he has. I don't think his sons are all that interested in them. Probably won't be much longer before they all go back into the market. He said he is waiting for someone to win the lottery and buy them all at one time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njanvilman Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Fred probably wouldn't sell his rarer Fishers(right now) but he does have several that you might be able to use the info from. One (500lber) has the cutout on the side for a Chambersberg blacker hammer and one has a special groove built under the tail for a swage or something similar. He does have quite a few above 400lbs up to 700lbs I think. He told me he is getting old and wants to cut down the number of anvils he has. I don't think his sons are all that interested in them. Probably won't be much longer before they all go back into the market. He said he is waiting for someone to win the lottery and buy them all at one time. Thanks for the info. I have three FISHER Blacker anvils, and all of the traditional style FISHER anvils from 1/2 lb to 800 lb., plus lots more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatfudd Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Ok Josh- I have seen some pics of your museum and someday I hope to get a chance to go and see it in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Now if you did happen to find one of Fred's you had a hankering for; I hope to get to Quad-State this year and could haul it from NM to Q-S for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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