January 8, 201412 yr Nice anvil! I guess the “cast steel” refers to the top plate. Has this stamping been seen on other Fisher anvils?
January 8, 201412 yr I've got a 50 lb Fisher dated roughly 1890-1892 off the top of my head. If I can locate the small camera, I'll dump the picts I took of it the other week for you here when I get the chance. College at Bryn Athyn has a couple of large Fishers as well as a tiny bench anvil in their blacksmithing studio. Warren of Iron Studio LTD, who just joined here not long ago, can probably get you the sizes and quantities since he does the teaching there.
January 9, 201412 yr Author Nice anvil! I guess the “cast steel” refers to the top plate. Has this stamping been seen on other Fisher anvils? "Cast Steel" is stamped into a few of the early (1850's) Fisher anvils that I have, and it is in several that friends have. Yes, it does refer to the top plate, not the whole anvil. Early Fisher anvils used "Jasper Tool Steel", which I believe was imported from England for the top plate. One of the mysteries left out there: I have never found out who and where the horn steel plate were made. There are no workers left from the Crossley era who might have known.
January 10, 201412 yr Were the horn steel plates ground heavily to shape after casting or completely/mostly pre shaped? I’m guessing they were pre shaped but how? In power hammer or power press dies?
January 10, 201412 yr Author Were the horn steel plates ground heavily to shape after casting or completely/mostly pre shaped? I’m guessing they were pre shaped but how? In power hammer or power press dies? They were cast steel. I have some of the patterns that were used, but I have never found any record of who or where they were cast. I have many that were never used. Come and see.
January 10, 201412 yr I see – they really were “Cast Steel” rather than ‘cast steel’-- the generic term for some tool steels of the era which would have been forged to shape. Were the main top plates actually cast to shape or sheared from cast steel plate? Will make it there at some point. Can’t wait!
January 10, 201412 yr Author I see – they really were “Cast Steel” rather than ‘cast steel’-- the generic term for some tool steels of the era which would have been forged to shape. Were the main top plates actually cast to shape or sheared from cast steel plate? Will make it there at some point. Can’t wait! The flat top plates were cut from a 0-1 water hardening type of steel. They were not cast as the horn steel was.
January 18, 201412 yr Man there are two beauties on the flea bay right now. Got the fisher jealous thing going on lol.
January 18, 201412 yr I just saw that 500-pounder on the bay. Sadder than sad that I'm dead broke or she'd be coming down south for a long visit!!
January 20, 201412 yr Author I just saw that 500-pounder on the bay. Sadder than sad that I'm dead broke or she'd be coming down south for a long visit!! You can visit it anytime in NJ.
January 20, 201412 yr @ Joshua, did you grab the 300#'r too? I saw they both (and others from the same guy) got pulled. Way to far for me to even contemplate the purchase.
January 20, 201412 yr You can visit it anytime in NJ. Lucky sod! She was certainly the best looking 500 I've ever seen. Almost as-new. Very glad to know she's going to a good home where she'll be loved and cared for. :D
January 21, 201412 yr Author Only the 500 came home. The 300 was not as good as what I have, and I stay away from HB anvils. My FISHER disease is bad enough.
January 21, 201412 yr Now you've given me an excuse to come see your museum, NJ.! Seller offered to strap that big boy to a pallet and send it up here to the frozen tundra. Glad it went to another good home (but I would have enjoyed beating upon it ;) )
January 21, 201412 yr Author Now you've given me an excuse to come see your museum, NJ.! Seller offered to strap that big boy to a pallet and send it up here to the frozen tundra. Glad it went to another good home (but I would have enjoyed beating upon it ;) ) If you are coming to the ABANA event in August, plan to stop here afterwards. I am only about a two hour drive north of there(a short drive for those of you in the West). Even if you are not coming then, plan a trip in someday. No one who has ever been here has not been overwhelmed.
January 23, 201412 yr Hi Joshua- I purchased this 400lb fisher from Fred Moore (See the thread the largest anvil collection) today. It wasn't as good a deal as you got that 500lber I'm sure but not bad. It has an excellent face and horn but the only trouble is that it apparently laid in an area where much moisture got to the side with the insignia and to the back with the date. I can barely make out the date, I think its 1932. It has no lugs. If you need any other info please holler. BTW Fred is selling many of his anvils, all of his power hammers( Matchless antiques have already bought most) and I think most if not all of his cones plus much of the other non- anvil stuff. He is keeping the rarer anvils and the bigger anvils. You should probably contact him for info on the remaining Fisher anvils, he has at least a dozen, many over 350lbs.
January 23, 201412 yr Author Hi Joshua- I purchased this 400lb fisher from Fred Moore (See the thread the largest anvil collection) today. It wasn't as good a deal as you got that 500lber I'm sure but not bad. It has an excellent face and horn but the only trouble is that it apparently laid in an area where much moisture got to the side with the insignia and to the back with the date. I can barely make out the date, I think its 1932. It has no lugs. If you need any other info please holler. BTW Fred is selling many of his anvils, all of his power hammers( Matchless antiques have already bought most) and I think most if not all of his cones plus much of the other non- anvil stuff. He is keeping the rarer anvils and the bigger anvils. You should probably contact him for info on the remaining Fisher anvils, he has at least a dozen, many over 350lbs. Nice Fisher. At least the corrosion is not where it matters. Only a few 400 lb Fishers had lugs. Most did not. And I agree is is 193x. I have looked at the videos of the collection. I doubt there is anything there that I seek. And it is almost 3000 miles away! I am now only looking for the custom and rare model Fishers. I have the rest....Not that I would not mind seeing his collection some day.
January 23, 201412 yr Fred probably wouldn't sell his rarer Fishers(right now) but he does have several that you might be able to use the info from. One (500lber) has the cutout on the side for a Chambersberg blacker hammer and one has a special groove built under the tail for a swage or something similar. He does have quite a few above 400lbs up to 700lbs I think. He told me he is getting old and wants to cut down the number of anvils he has. I don't think his sons are all that interested in them. Probably won't be much longer before they all go back into the market. He said he is waiting for someone to win the lottery and buy them all at one time.
January 23, 201412 yr Author Fred probably wouldn't sell his rarer Fishers(right now) but he does have several that you might be able to use the info from. One (500lber) has the cutout on the side for a Chambersberg blacker hammer and one has a special groove built under the tail for a swage or something similar. He does have quite a few above 400lbs up to 700lbs I think. He told me he is getting old and wants to cut down the number of anvils he has. I don't think his sons are all that interested in them. Probably won't be much longer before they all go back into the market. He said he is waiting for someone to win the lottery and buy them all at one time. Thanks for the info. I have three FISHER Blacker anvils, and all of the traditional style FISHER anvils from 1/2 lb to 800 lb., plus lots more.
January 23, 201412 yr Ok Josh- I have seen some pics of your museum and someday I hope to get a chance to go and see it in person.
January 23, 201412 yr Now if you did happen to find one of Fred's you had a hankering for; I hope to get to Quad-State this year and could haul it from NM to Q-S for you.
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