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That is a great video or your build. Well done and i am envious of your work. Well done and great video. The build is epic and deserves to be posted in the anvil thread. Nice build.. Sorry, and its not really my place. but this is a quality build and worthy of sharing.. Shoot me if I am wrong and nice job. I apologize ahead of time and beg for forgiveness..

FYI, this is just some extra info. The SME, liquid metals and robotics as well as adaptive MFG with 3D metal printers are the buzz words. SME is a non-profit student and professional association for educating and advancing the manufacturing industry in North America. Formerly called: Society of Manufacturing Engineers Purpose: To advance manufacturing and attract future generations Founded: 1932 here is one from 2017 and while it touts advances.. I don't see any new information. ART20178736.pdf

there are many Vocational schools offering blacksmithing programs additive to their welding and fabrication programs and much of it is based on the desires of the teacher and is additive. In Worcester there were Wyman and Gordons who had forge shops for over 100 years in worcester. they also have a forge shop in Grafton with one of the largest forging presses in all the world. Today there are a few larger ones out there.. But all of the forge shop in Worcester are gone except 1. W&G It was a 7 acre complex with 100 hammers and it is all gone. But overall in this area the forging shops have gone the way of the dodo. There are still places in industry that want forge experience and fully understand modern and adaptive MFG. Doing a 4 year forging program with industrial, Aero space, Heavy fabrication, and such at a college level would be a tough roll indeed as most of it is book learning vs hands on. Forget about wrought iron but the methods employed are still valid. this is just my take on it and years back I took business classes and met with many industrial annalists as a way to have a better business model. Every person whom I met with all came back to machinery.. That in order to be productive I need to produce X, Y, Z at a rate fast enough to offset all other costs. This model or modern MFG model does not apply to hand forging or to blacksmithing persay if its hand work. I know a few industrial blacksmiths and they make a living but it's not what most think it is. Where I see the biggest advantage is when there is a special problem while fabricating a weldament and knowing how to forge on the spot, I can make the part needed and include it in the item. thus both saving time, making more profit and it benefits with less rework time. So, while i understand offering the course in terms of furthering a knowledge base so the student can have additive capability each and every time with forging it all comes back to the basics and then the learning comes to the adaptive nature of the person. (where or how can this be applied). In other words being realistic to what can in fact be done or learned and then applied in the real world work environment. Welding and fabrication is a whole different beast than Forging.. The sky is the limit with both technology, CNC, equipment and such. Again, it's a different process and more widely spread with AWS, etc, etc. Forging on the other hand always comes back to the same means unless using closed dies. Today we have inverters with induction coils to heat metals quickly and in small areas so no need of gas or solid fuel forges are needed. But it is then still forged the same whether open die or closed die. Hammer, press, hydraulic press or hydraulic hammer press. I understand part of why you want a newer text for teaching as it's snazzy and up to date.. IE It just looks better.. Keep in mind there is a reason why the forging industry has not really changed in 200 years.. There is a limitation and is the reason why CNC has taken up many of the forging jobs and Billet became the hot word vs forged. Not one thing from 1910 has changed with forging and all the information passed along then is still the same exact information needed today to understand the forging of metals. I wish you much luck on your journey.

Your description of rough accent and bad cinematography is right up my alley.. I love both of those if it's an interesting concept or action.

I'm not scoffing. Don't be so dismissive. You asked.. I was a professional smith for many years and ran a fabrication business for many years. Time is money. My question would pose this way. What is it exactly you want the students to learn in that time frame in regards to training???? You must have an outline in your head or on paper at this point based on industrial standards, and demographics for employment.. Forging of steels has not changed much in the last 100 years so saying a book is outdated for hand forging well, Is kinda not hitting the mark. Is production your only goal? If a basic skill set your only goal? Is production forging in a highly competitive lean, manufacturing environment your own goal? Or is starting an Etsy store for someone who only wants to make key chains and make 60K a year your only goal. Entry level position in forging? What kind of parts? Hand forged R&D? If you are teaching a forging class the sky is the limit on the level of knowledge or skill set you desire to teach based on what you want the outcome to be.. Which industry? Having such a broad background would really limit any truly useful knowledge from a baseline stand point if hand forging. If all the students only learn how to work with closed die drop hammers that can produce 1 fully forged part per heat cycle it is sure fast, but how useful can be debated as there are not many forge shops left. With this said the true way to produce is to increase the level of machinery to get to a finished product.. So don't be snotty. Donald Streeter had a book on it. there is no reason to reinvent the world or the wheel. Unless of course that is exactly what you want to do. One of the most interesting aspects of forging is technically no one even needs to know how to hand forge if they are given instructions on how to run a closed die hammer. With this said. What are you expectations to what the person or student will actually learn?

John if the books are for sale at the school and purchased legally by the school, used in class there is no copyright infringement My understanding is, name changes, or not purchased without express consent.

Frosty, thanks just saw your reply after the post to Old Crew (David).. I will work on the man lift and leave the building till the weather changes. personally. I don't believe in Murphy or luck or bad luck.. There is only one tenet to destiny no matter what it is. Everything happens exactly as it's supposed to. Thanks Judson. The weather has turned and no longer concerned with finishing the building in a reasonable time frame.. If the weather turns and gives me a few clear days with no snow I'll resume construction but we have 20" of snow on the ground from the one storm and have no great way to clear all the snow and won't work on the beams with snow on the ground or ice.. So, if the man lift gets fixed it might be a different story. but the only things left are to install the angle brackets, the front wall and then the insulation and liner. Then side panels and roof. I got pretty much everything done that could be done before the snow. Glad to hear your so busy.. The last work pictures you posted were very impressive.

Thanks David on all fronts. The building is not really the problem nor the insulation.. It's the weather. I don't care how cold it gets I can still work.. it's the snow that completely leaves me breathless. I have worked outside in it for 31 years and know the pitfalls with snow from both a danger stand point and from the extra labor needed to deal with it. If this building arrived in August it would have been done in short order. Overall even with short days, and including the 4 days of rain is pretty good I think. But now we have 20" of snow on the ground from 1 storm and know the snow is here to stay.. Safety wise I won't be walking the frame as long as there is snow so now the building is on hold and have come to the conclusion I can't do anything about it. Without the snow I can work by myself and get a lot done but now with the snow it's not worth it. Bummer to as I have gotten inquiries about class schedules from 5 different people and hate to turn the classes and people away but in reality it won't be till maybe april till the building is done and then I'm off to the 2020 ABANA conference to teach and judge. Your help has been priceless on the building.. The hind sight being 20/20 I could build the next one in about 1/2 the time. It's been a huge learning curve.. I did find that the roof purlins on both ends do go over the center sections but don't fit that well till they are bolted down/in vs under which they fit well except 1 bolt hole. All this will have to be fixed but it's easy now. I put on 1 bolt at the EC in each purlin, then go to RF2 and move it into position and just move up one at a time. Easy really. I moved them into the correct position 1 at a time with the LULL. Made really good time working by myself last day on it. Got so much done. The boom lift was reasonable money and bought it for what 1 months rental would be.. It needs some work but will see how the weather is. It needs the center swivel re built and a few hydraulic hoses. Thanks on the videos. I do love to teach and the videos are information not really shared or seen else where. I usually just go make something and leave the cameras filming the whole time. Editing is the time sucker but the last video on the tomahawk didn't take as long as there was 1 edit and posted it. Was about 3hrs in editing. All videos were filmed between 1hr and 1.5hrs. It's the amount of free time I have usually after work and before family time. Love to see more details on the vise mount. The photo of the vise up were lacking details but next time maybe? thanks

Your welcome. I love that video too. I love seeing metal move and that video is a good one to see that. thanks. A coal forge can offer some some advantages but having good coal can be helpful. Some of todays modern gas forges though are pretty amazing. let me know how you make out with the new setup. I personally kinda go old school with limiting the main part to mild steel. I don't think in 30+ years of forging that I have ever made one completely out of a rasp. LOL. Never even thought about it. Ah shucks. Now your making me blush.

That is perfect.. That is going to be a wonderful platform for forging on. Can't wait to hear about how you like it.

Reason I was asking is that was one of the handle designs I taught at the Fall meet so wasn't sure if you were in on it. Great guys at Brentwood and some pretty talented smiths.

Nice. That handle looks a lot like the ones we did last year at the NEB work meet. Were you able to get in on it?

We get to a certain age and it becomes I can do what ever I want. that right is part of getting old. But, I often find in the youngers that they to exude the same type of behavior of. " I don't like it so I won't do it".. I had to have a rather long conversation with a millennial about work ethics and pride in one's work even when that work is a crappy job to do.. Any job is worth doing a good job on because of taking ones own pride in the work and when finished looking back at it with such pride. We were moving and splitting wood which he volunteered to do, LOL.. He moved 2 wheelbarrows and then I noticed his expression changed and instead of moving pieces he spent more time staring at them and kicking them. That is when I gave him the lecture.. I couldn't handle it any longer of the moping so called it a day. I guess he had time to think about it and a few days later he calls and asks if I was working and if he could come over. to help. I said sure.. Anyhow, he showed up with a new lease on the job and both was pleasant to work with and he did a great job. I asked him what happened and he said.. He thought about what we talked about and he agreed so all he had to do was change his mind. If you want to post photo's at any given quality then so be it. But posting photo's of something I can't even see or make out well then.. So be it.

wow, so it must be colder overall in other geographies. I was hoping for a long fall. How was the arm/aim? Years ago I had done a huge welding job and had the fire all banked up. It was at a demo. I took a full 5lb can of coffee water and dowsed the fire and the fire just laughed at the water. The audience was amazed.

LOL. I get it. 20F here right now. Even in the shop, so a few smacks and lower anvil for sure.

Wow, I'd take that any day. The weather here has been unseasonably cold and wet. I knew this was going to be the case though as soon as the final build date was more solidified. How I knew you might ask.. Because it's not what I wanted. Or was it exactly what I wanted and that is why it happened. ? ???? 3rd time shoveling today and I all ready plowed 2x. Supposed to snow till about noon tomorrow (tuesday).

Boy little sensitive about photo's much.. come on, you can do it. Just fancy cheerleading squad. We are not complaining about the photo's. Just asking for some better ones. Hard to see details when there on none. If I responded to every suggest about doing something better or differently with "Well I just won't do it at all". What does that say or tell the next generation.

Thomas, you low res pic is barely there. Looks like a piece of wood and becomes pixelated when made bigger.

LOL. Lady bug lift. Here is the website for the insulation aspect. http://www.skylinersystems.com/literature/

So today was banner. Working all by myself I was able to get the last 5 purlins in, All eave strut brackets in, several of the end secondary reinforcements plates.(CL's) and things cleaned up. And this is the reason I am not so fond of winter. Today was a very long day. I called it quits once the snow started to accumulate on the beams. My New Grove man lift.

Most people fail to recognize we are all energy and our tie to spirit and energy are all the same. this past year with the new shop being built I used crushed concrete and it was delivered with all sort of metal included. The neat thing is there were pieces of L shaped wire from floor reinforcement wire and anyhow, as an example I shown how just taking these bent wires to one of my martial arts students how to pin point water in the ground. He had never seen this. so I took the 2 L's from the dirt and held them loosely and walked around and they crossed and uncrossed at each wet spot. I then gave him instruction to keep his hands loose and to allow for the rods to turn completely on there own. His results were smack dab on with mine. He was amazed he could actually feel the energy move the rods. Initially he was freaked out by this but we had been working on Chi generation and focus but it was the first time he experienced it as an outside source so strongly.

it sounds great.

The factory is kinda neat. As with anything like this the whole area has changed. None. 0, ziltch, nodda. LOL.. I did find a video that I have not watched yet. I have posted it to the Build thread.

That is a fantastic vise. Athol is 3 towns over from me Starrett is based in Athol. Used to be a whole bunch of both Blacksmithing tool makers and machine tools along the Millers river. I'm envious. I've wanted one of those for a long time. Super handy to have and use.