Scalebar Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Grubbing around in the river again. Is that gas torch cutting on the end? Too small for an anvil but I feel it should be a tool, what's the best way to put this to good use. Also got half a sleeper, a frustrated dog and sore shoulders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Definitely torch cut, but certainly NOT too small for an anvil. I have a backup/teaching anvil made from a similar chunk of track: Hot-cut and mini-horn cut into one end: And you can turn it on its side to use the inside curves as swages: Check out the improvised anvils thread for other examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnut Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 It's definitely usable as an anvil Not being able to move my piece of rail around easily is the one drawback to having such a long piece but I think the added mass makes up for the inconvenience. I've learned to use the web etc as it stands without moving or flipping it around. That piece would make a great bottom fuller for drawing out stock or as a die for a treadle or power hammer. Pnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Smaller ones I use for non-ferrous metals, think jewelry making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalebar Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 Wow you people are helpful. I've bought it a friend - a ten inch section of track. I figure the small section gets shaped into a marvelous multi faced anvil and the larger flattened on the face as a larger striking surface. I'm thinking sand box for the stand for maximum flexibility - I don't have a great deal of space I think I know the answer to this but I've not seen it mentioned - I don't need to temper do I? If this stuff was hardened it'd shatter under a train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George N. M. Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I would say, no, don't mess about with any heat treating. Rails are pretty tough steel to begin with and if they have seen heavy use the top of the rail may be work hardened. I doubt that you would gain enough from heat treating to justify the effort. "By hammer and hand all arts do stand." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 No, no heat treatment necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGGUNDOCTOR Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 It is high in carbon, so could make a nice blade. Has anyone done a blade from rail, and how well does it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalebar Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 I've been wondering about that myself. I've got my eye on a couple of rail clips next time I'm walking the dog that way - modern ones, wonder if they're the same steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazer Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Hammer, yes. Knife, no. That steel is tough stuff and forging it down into a bar for a knife doesn't sound very fun to me. You could use the web or feet and it would be slightly easier, but that's still a decent amount of work. I wouldn't be surprised if it made a decent knife though. I can say the rail clips/anchors make decent knives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 There are a LOT of discussions of rail clips on the forum. Take a look at those. You can always do a test-harden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Note that you can harden and draw temper such that rail wouldn't shatter under a train. It's a continuum not binary! May I commend to your attention Alexander Weygers "The Complete Modern Blacksmith" that includes a chapter on how he would make smithing anvils from rail---*including* heat treating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalebar Posted May 9, 2021 Author Share Posted May 9, 2021 Duly acquired though the magic of the interweb and flipped through. That'll make good commute reading. Thanks for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHCC Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 The section on test hardening is quite good too, even if some of his metallurgical info is a bit off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scalebar Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Just made a hefty box for both pieces, just need to get some sand. The end of the the large piece is really rough, I'll see if I can slice off a useful piece when I tidy that - looks like it'd make a really good small eye hoe if I bent the flats round to form the eye. If it works it'd be worth buying a section for the purpose - I can bribe the allotment committee into letting me set up down there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 You'll have to grind the torch cuts off, a cutting torch hardens the heck out of RR rail. Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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