Charles R. Stevens Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 All the new guys on the rail road anvil band wagon got me to thinking (I can hear Frosty and TP's keyboards smoking as I hit post) why not build a few for demo perposes? I coned TJ Watts into dicing up a 24" peice of heavy guage for me, 1 peice 12", 2 at 6" and few bits (I'll post the prjects for the rest of the rail later). Every one has seen london paterns carbed out of rail, and most have seen them on end as "post anvils" but this is my take. Now I'm solisiting ideas for the other end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsoldat Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I like it Charles. I'd be happy to have something like that in my shop. And the best part, still have a London pattern anvil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 More or less, lol what would you carve out of the other end? I'm thinking bending forksOn the bending fork, I think of cutting a vertical slot in one branch of the flang, say leaving 1/2" out at the edge, and cutting a horizontal slot on the other branch, as the flange tapers from 1/2" to 7/8" (befor. the filet between the flange and web) i belive I will go a head and fuller round the web to make a fuller. That of corse meens a matching strait pein... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Interesting idea Charles certainly ticks all the right boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crantius Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I don't see why you want to reshape the other end, I'd leave it as it is, for pieces that are too large for the anvil shaped end.On the other hand you could grind some fuller shapes into that midsection between the usable areas. Or even a rectangular cutout for an integrated guillotine. That would really be something you don't see every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 , thanks Stan. Looking for somthing, with less work than carving out a london pattern, would give the beginer that had aqured a hunk of rail would be able to have a multy tool. Colto, the small "anvil" is acualy just a small double ended bick opiset the 1 1/2"x 3" " anvil face. Not sure how i would intigrate a guilitene tool, but my thought was to flip the anvil end for end, and enclude again a 1 1/2" x 3" anvil with another set of sinple tools carved into the web and flange. Glenn got me thinking a couple of years ago with "use the whole anvil, you payed for it" i am also considering including an inscribed ruller like Steve Sells has on his straitning rail. I think then it is on to the stand...I still need to think about the other end, i think the horizontal bending fork will not work well, so I need to consider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crantius Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 I was thinking about this area (not sure if I got the proportions right):you'd cut out this section, add inserts (like with this design https://youtu.be/7SCbkeJzj1U?t=15s) and two plates for front/back, welded or bolted to the main body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsoldat Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 if it were mine I might make a 1/2 round fuller there for welding up cable to make knives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Thats where I'm leaning, DS. And notch one leg of the flange for a bending fork. What to do with the other leg?as I have 2 farriers anvils (70& 125#) this is a "what you can do" deminstration peice, a throw it in the horse trailer tool as well as one more anvil for the shop. So brainstorming is appritiated. Some one else may benifit. Any one have cool modification to show or suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cochran Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Colto, while I do like the idea of a built in guillotine, I don't know how practical it would be.Charles, i do like what you got so far and I'm following this with much interest. I am taking notes and doin some thinkin to see what I might find useful. The turnin forks would a be cool feature even if I never used it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Its like the turning cams on a blacksmiths anvil, i find that becase they are their I use them, if they werent I wounldnt. Good tool for fine adsustments on tool handle and cookware handle eyes, so is the little bick (1/2 to 7/8" so just about right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony San Miguel Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Here's an idea that has worked well for me. I made a fuller and a hot cut and they both work well. I use this hot cut more than any other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Thanks, i grount a hot cut into the web of the first end. I am considering a fuller on the opesit web tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 ok, so this is a fuller and 2 bending forks carved out. Note bending forks are a PITA! To carve out with a grinder but I now have the tech doun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 If you drill a hole in the flange close to the web o receive a hinge pin or bolt and another one or two on the other side of the web to accept stock you could include an easy bar shear in the design.If a guy wanted to get creative grinding I suppose a limited beverly type shear is possible but I'm drawing a blank on how to make that work.Modifying a piece of rail on end like this is only limited by a person's imagination. I'm a little shocked nobody thought of this sooner or maybe they're keeping mum. This little head slapper moment brought to us by Charles shows brain power in action.Thank YOU Charles, brilliant thinking!Frosty The Lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share Posted May 26, 2015 Well, as I grount the "cut off" as a one sided bevel that might work very well. As I have seen others adding fullers and cut offs, i just took it a step farther. But I am sure more ideas can be generated. I think I have a pritchel hole/ toolholder idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdaleh Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Great thread for all the people that think they have to have a london style anvil and cant find one. Good job Charles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share Posted May 27, 2015 This is just one option tdaleh, and thats kind of why I stared this thread, I have another couple of "anvil" projects with the idea of alternatives, hope to do the same with "not another brake drum forge" but thats another thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.watts Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 i was wondering exactly what you had in mind, looks good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkie Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Looks kool!! Not yer everyday run-of-the-mill RR anvil. Your right brain was running full bore, Charles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSW Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 That permanently fixed cut off gives me the willies. I can see it as a dedicated cut off fixture, but I'd be cautious about forging with it there uncovered. I think if I went that route, I'd devise some sort of cover for it when not in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 I will think about that DSWTJ, realy looking for somthing to demmo tfor beginers alternitive anvil options, looking for a lager orfined sledge head and also going to cut a cube of that 4" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles R. Stevens Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 I driled pritchel holes befor my trip, and un apologeticly stole the 1" markings and the dish for straitining from Steve.I am sure another few refinements will be in order, but I belive it is time to mount her and put her to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) I think you're having just too much fun with this Charles. It's a brilliant job of blowing the whole RR rail isn't a "real" anvil argument out of the water. That Brother is as real an anvil as I've ever seen, a serious multi-tasker.Frosty The Lucky. Edited June 12, 2015 by Frosty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrin_radd Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Great thread! I will have to keep this link ready to paste when ever I see someone using just an old mundane slab of track. I have been tripping over a piece of track just about this size in my shop for a couple of weeks planning to make a post anvil, this is definitely some great inspiration. Looks really handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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