Glenn Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Sometimes things happen where a blacksmith can no longer work as he once did. This is usually related to mobility or standing in one place for any length of time. There are others that have physical problems that would like to start blacksmithing, but the tools are too tall, too heavy, or whatever. Let's start a discussion on ways and ideas to address these problems. To start, how would a blacksmith that could not stand for a long period of time change things so he could still work in his shop? Would a bar stool to sit / lean against help? What about a wooden Block / box to place on foot on to rest the leg by changing position? Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 something as a couple well placed bar stools works wonders. They can be bought cheap at walley word and target etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian C. Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 A 4 or 6 in. box or rail to rest one foot on makes a big difference when standing for long periods. My Dad suffered from 2 degenerative discs in his back for 50+ years & worked at a bench every day. He says this method was of some benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheftjcook Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 I like the well placed bar stools that Dodge mentioned. For time when you just have to stand in one spot on a cement floor they sell those heavy/dense foam mats. Time spent on a concrete/cement floor really takes a toll on ones back, feet & legs. Yes some of the fleas and dropped iron may melt it a bit it, but I think it is worth it. (Thinking out loud....Would they work as well on a hard packed dirt floor or packed stone floor? Maybe!) Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalmaster1766 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 on an uneven floor, make sure the stools have 3 legs instead of 4, that helps with the wobbling Ron Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_sandy_creek_forge Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 The first thing that comes to mind is the videos I've seen (youtube, google, etc. ) of Asian smiths actually sitting on the floor while they work. Of course then you have to get back up off of the floor:) As far as a barstool, I could definitely see one of those leaning type fishing seats that they put on bass boats being an ideal solution. -Aaron @ the SCF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Salvati Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 The very first blacksmith I met, had explained to me that he was having toruble standing for longer periods of time, and placed a stool at the key spots around his shop, in front of the power hammer, in front of the forge, close by to the anvil, etcetera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habu68 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 The blacksmith shop at Rock Ledge Ranch historic park had a soft dirt floor that formed paths reflecting the working patterns of the smiths. The uneven floor was the best surface I have ever worked on. Anvil hight was adjusted with a pile of dirt and a shovel.;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWooldridge Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Some of the Asian smiths work in a pit with the anvil on the ground so could conceivably work a while and lean back against the edge of the hole. Of course, you have to get in and out of the pit. We had an old fellow in our group some years ago who had polio as a child and walked with those arm support crutches that go up to the elbow. He also had a small seat with a single leg that he carried so he could lean back and rest. He was standing on his two legs but the third one gave him something to brace against. I can still stand for long periods but typically sit on a stool at the power hammer or when doing bench work. As Brian said, a foot rest goes a long way to reducing fatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyGeorge Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Hey, I stand at a bench for long periods, at work, and found that the rubber mat and tall stool both help, tremendously. I had back surgery, once, and it ain't fun!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasPowers Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 I've learned that I can forge sitting down with a lower anvil---going from a sedentary job to standing and walking all day at an event will do that for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gronk Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Those restaurant "fatigue" mats are great for a non-slip floor covering. They have 3/4" holes in them to let water, etc.. go through. They can be had for free from the restaurants when they get a bit beat up. (Talk to the chef) I usually have to cut them to size anyway, so the missing chunks are not a problem. They have thinner (3/8") hard as a rock, cheap knock-offs at the big box stores. They look similar, but are not near the quality of even a used good mat. I know a smith that has one leg that gives him trouble. He has his anvil mounted to a stump with a crotch of a large limb left on. He rests his knee in it and still is as close to the anvil as can be. Takes the weight off the lower leg and ankle while still putting his own weight on the knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete46 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 After standing for long periods at the forge, I hang from some pull-up handles. [i rigged from the roof]. Just hang and relax as much as possible !;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesteryearforge Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Just hanging out in the forge ( i like that ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete46 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Yesteryear: Not only is it healthy, it's kinda musical when the kinks start fall'n out. [of your back] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAllcorn Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 My 2 cents agree with CurlyGeorge's reply. I have a concrete floor and foot problems (they are flat and absolutely KILL me after a while). I bought 4 or 5 industrial quality rubber mats from a surplus place. One is in front of my anvil, another in front of my workbench vise, another by the power hammer, etc. Helps tremendously! And when you drop a piece of hot iron, the smell of burning rubber alerts you to its whereabouts! I've tried sitting on a barstool/industrial shop stool but that only works for me when at the vise, welding, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryl Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 I have found the biggest contributions to fatigue in the shop are poor foot-wear, unsuitable floor, and an unsuitable height for work items. The poor footwear should be a no-brainer, adjusting the work height is a little more touchy, though can be done with a little patience, an unsuitable floor may be somewhat more difficult to solve. There are many ways to help you with your floor, anything from a gravel floor, shale, etc.. It is important to make only one change at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 I agree with those who have posted on here about soft mats. They help a ton with eliminating fatigue. The ones I have worked on are foam mats that interlock like a puzzle on your shop floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal L Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I won't call this a solution as much as an observation, but three years ago i went on a Mission trip to Mali, West Africa. I was suprisized to find the smiths there sitting. The main one I watched working was sitting on a car rim with a board across it. The anvil was on the ground and the forge was a side blast also built in ground. I had rather stand, sitting like he was would kill my back. I'll have to see if I can find some of the pictures and scan them so I can post them. I took these before i had a digital camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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