Sam Salvati Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Here is some of the finished tongs from the methods shown in the tutorial, forged from A36, 3/8" thick by 1" wide by 8" long. 16" reigns, shown in this photo are pickup tongs, bolt tongs for 3/4 square and round, and flat bar tongs for 3/8" thick by 1 1/2" wide. Quote
beth Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 they look wicked sam. cant work out the curly ended ones - is that for flat? ive never seen that before... the tongs look good and light. :) Quote
Bob S Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Looking good Sam. Are you making these to sell or just outfitting your shop? Quote
Sam Salvati Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 Thanks everyone! Beth, yes they are look here Bob, I am making them to sell and outfitting my shop hehe. Mike, check it out here: http://forums.dfoggknives.com/index.php?showtopic=22126&st=0 Quote
beth Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 yes thats cool sam. i guess the picture didnt look like it was going to do that to me! i like them and no doubt id buy them if you lived near me. they look strong and light and i like them :) Quote
Pat Roy Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I like the design of the flat bar tongs. I'll be making some like that. What tutorial? Quote
Frank Turley Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I like the tongs for flats. Reminds me a little of 'whoop.' Quote
Bob S Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 What tutorial? http://blacksmith.org/forums/threads/1854-Tong-tutorial Quote
Sam Salvati Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 Bob thanks for the link I guess everyone missed my link hehe Quote
pkrankow Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Very nice write up and very nice tongs. Just clarifying from the other website threads, you always drill your tongs? and you always drill them oversize to the rivet? Doesn't having the hole oversize increase the potential for slop before the tongs are very old or have you never noticed an issue? Does the rivet simply upset into the space and fit the hole? Do you hot rivet or cold rivet, does it matter? Phil ps You should email Glenn the file to post in blueprints. Quote
beth Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 hey i just read the tutorial !! geniusly simple to follow sam - Nice One - they look great - youve inspired me to persist with this tong making thing, i am continuously raging with frustration whilst using the wrong tongs... nuff said... thanks for that :) Quote
Dodge Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Sam, on the bolt tong, what method do you use to forge the V-ee jaws? Guillotine dies? Press? Top and bottom tool? Thanks, Scott Quote
Sam Salvati Posted February 10, 2012 Author Posted February 10, 2012 Very nice write up and very nice tongs. Just clarifying from the other website threads, you always drill your tongs? and you always drill them oversize to the rivet? Doesn't having the hole oversize increase the potential for slop before the tongs are very old or have you never noticed an issue? Does the rivet simply upset into the space and fit the hole? Do you hot rivet or cold rivet, does it matter? Phil ps You should email Glenn the file to post in blueprints. Always drill, the rivet fills the hole, it is done hot. PS why? I didn't post it here for a reason. Thanks Beth, with your powerhammer tongs will be easy peasy! Scott, I just use a hot cut, though I am working on another more repeatable way. Quote
HWooldridge Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Re rivets: Some older texts recommend hot-punching from the outer side because that tapers the hole and supposedly keeps the two halves together better but I have never been able to tell the difference from a drilled hole. However, what does work quite well is to drill and countersink the hole in each tong bit (outside surface) then use a piece of ground drill rod for a rivet. Final step is to heat and upset into the depressions. This rivet method will hold for a long time before needing any sort of resetting due to wear. Quote
Francis Trez Cole Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Francis Whitaker recommended drilling Quote
Sam Salvati Posted February 29, 2012 Author Posted February 29, 2012 Re rivets: Some older texts recommend hot-punching from the outer side because that tapers the hole and supposedly keeps the two halves together better but I have never been able to tell the difference from a drilled hole. However, what does work quite well is to drill and countersink the hole in each tong bit (outside surface) then use a piece of ground drill rod for a rivet. Final step is to heat and upset into the depressions. This rivet method will hold for a long time before needing any sort of resetting due to wear. Thanks for the tips Hollis, I will start slightly countersinking both sides. Quote
Steve Sells Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 NIce Sam, you have come a long way. Quote
Unforgivun Posted February 29, 2012 Posted February 29, 2012 Sorta reminds me of this http://www.blksmth.com/tong_article.htm but with a power hammer :) Good Job on those, I really like the one for flat bar. Quote
David Gaddis Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 When I grow up I hope to do that good.....man...they are some fine tools! Quote
Sam Salvati Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 Dave LOL! Thanks very much. Unforgivun, yes I followed that a bit when it comes to the jaw area, I now however split the end with a disc cutter. Quote
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