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Your math is correct.

Grant, Nice anvil...the top plate looks fantastic. To clean some of the grime off, try a wire wheel. It will remove junk on the anvil without taking metal off. Wear good PPE, as wire stuck in your face and arms sucks, and breathing rust dust is bad. You can use Boiled Linseed Oil to slow future rust.

Cool. The A&H I saw at the Amish farrier had a S/N and welded waist that didn't fit in the AIA S/N range with a welded waist. I don't remember the specifics, just that it didn't fit into what RP had seen. I know there are lots of anvils that have not been documented. RP didn't document any HB made anvils above a certain S/N with another trade mark. I have an H Hudson with a S/N well outside the ones he documented. They exist, RP just never saw them. He did do a fantastic job researching and publishing what he found. I hope you continue to add to his research and share the information as you have been doing. Mark

I just reread the post with the 222XXX s/n and weight, so I stand corrected again. (Hanging head in shame). A&H seems to have gone into the 51XXX range. I revise my guess to Trenton...1947 or 1948. You rescued a nice looking anvil, I hope it serves you well.

Still lots of face left on that anvil to work on, as long as whats left of the face is still hard and attached. That said, the price is silly.

My guess would be Arm and Hammer from the very unfinished under heel and arc welded waist. I saw a branded A&H in an Amish farrier shop that had the very rough under heel and a very obvious arc welded waist. Could be wrong but It's my guess and I'm sticking to it! Nice anvil by the way.

Crossed 'bandaids' look like a J Wilkinson trademark.

VP 9 had Neptunes from 1952 to the early 60's according to wiki.

Someone smarter and more experienced than me will come along to offer sage advice, but you can work some good sized metal on a 170 pound anvil. If you have the funds, and the Brooks still has a good temper, you could buy and use it, until you find the bigger anvil. I think most of us started out wanting the perfect big anvil, but used what we could find and worked up from there. Just my 2 cents and worth every bit you paid for it.

Some folks overseas went crazy over Zippos, You could trade them for a lot of things, worth much more than the $5-10 you paid at the ships store. Good times.

I would trade you a couple of Zippos for it, I'll even pay shipping on the Zippos, you pay the on anvil. How common and available are anvils in IS? If they are not common $3.50 a pound may be very reasonable. Brooks are cast steel, the one I have actually looked at seemed to have good rebound. That anvil looks to be in very good condition if it has a good rebound, it could keep your Trexton company.

If only our anvils could tell their stories. Maybe it was "Lend lease" to the British, or more than likely it was brought in by someone as TP suggested. Could have been ordered and shipped over at some point. I will tell you with absolute certainty- I did not sell any ships anvils, Zippos maybe!

Smed, Do you know if there were any US facilities or bases in the area during WWII? I know Israel hadn't been established during the war, but there may have been some kind of base.

Smed72 AIA says 1941-1943 Nice looking 'Trexton' Trenton. You have a very nice friend. I met a lot of American expats in Haifa, guess you are giving one a home.

BF: I stand corrected, do you have the rough dates Soderfors made the anvils, and when A&H made them? EFW- Some anvils don't have S/Ns, I cannot find a S/N on my Mousehole, but can get a rough date by the makers markings.

AIA says your Belknap was made by Columbus Anvil and Forgings Company (Arm and Hammer), their should be a S/N on the foot under the horn, with that you can get a manufacture date Nice anvil from an excellent maker.

My Hudson celebrated 100 this year, as far as anvils go it is still a young-un.

Ntryt2, According to AIA: Your Black Prince, S/N 193510, is a Columbus Forge and Iron Company (Trenton) 169 pound anvil made in 1926. It was sold thru the Shapleight Hardware Company of St Louis Mo. It is a very nice looking anvil with a 'crazy' history....Hope this info helps.

Grimace, your S/N comes out in 1915 Marty comes out at 1911 Sorry for the confusion, two people asking and I didn't specify who I was replying to.

AIA says 1911.

I use 3 large pine cones wrapped in newspaper with a little coal on top, once the pine cones are going pretty good, start adding more coal/coke. It works very well for me. Mark

I don't care if someone likes collecting anvils, cars, cupie dolls, or beanie babies. If they find whatever object interesting, and have the means so be it, and good on them. I like anvils and have 2, a 150 lb Hudson for the shop and a 100 lb Mousehole that is portable, they are all I "need". I still enjoy finding anvils, and really enjoy digging thru AIA and learning about a particular anvil. I have "met" a few anvils that I would really like to have but I couldn't justify(afford) another anvil or they weren't for sale, so I get enjoyment from just meeting a new and different anvil and doing a little research. Last week I went to a truck repair shop and there was an Old English pattern Mousehole sitting on a stump. I dug in AIA and found out what I could and gave the owner a little history of his anvil and it's maker. A couple of years ago I found a 126 pound German made Trenton at a hardware store, owner wanted 375 for it. It was a very nice anvil, but I left it for someone who needed it more than I did. It sat there for well over a year before someone finally took my temptation away. I guess what I am trying to say is the anvils are out there, a few are in collections, a bunch are in use, some are in junk/antique/ebay shops with a hefty price tag, but there are enough still in the wild to make the hunt worthwhile and satisfying when you find one. Just have to keep looking for one of the wild ones, or bite the bullet and pay the antique price. Mr Hudson when I finished the hunt for my first anvil. Found at a feed store in NC while I was looking at a fertilizer spreader for a neighbor. I wasn't looking for an anvil at the feed store, but it was sitting in front of the spreader my neighbor wanted to rent.

Almost looks like an Arm and Hammer logo in the last pic. Nice looking anvil by the way. Mark

Does this profile look familiar? Mine is a 150 pound 3rd style HB Made in 1919 or so. Mine isn't marked HB, it's marked "H Hudson Tool Co" but the shape is pretty distinctive. Yours does not appear to have been as abused as mine was, it should provide many years of good family time. Enjoy... Mark

AH HA... I now know what to call myself: a SCRAPSMITH ! If I drop the first 'S' it pretty much describes some of the things I've made. When I did a lot of wood working, I could take a perfectly good board and do a bang up job of making saw dust and scrap wood. Now I can do the same thing with metal chips and drops. I never claim to be a blacksmith or weldor, I can heat and form metal, and stick mild steel together but I havn't had any formal classes in either skill, someday maybe I'll get schooled in one or the other, but I still don't think I'll claim any title. My 2 bits... Mark