Gobbler, i wish i could talk her into it, but if i even speak of "metal" i may as well not speak at all, she loves the roses i made for her and a few other odds n ends, and i did manage to get her out in the shop 1 afternoon and heat a 1/2" square bar and twist it (i saved it for her (just in case), but that was as far as it went, she thinks i spent to much time as it is in the shop and on the internet reading about all aspects of metal working, but after spending 18 years in a machine shop its tough to get away from what you really like to do with your time, maybe if i could get a small shop opened up and make some money it may inspire her to go with me to these type of events, been with her for over 23 years, married for 18, i love her more than i can say in words but i dont think ill ever make it to Quad State LOL, i just tell myself "there is always next year"
Ron